00:00If you weren't the biggest fan of reality TV, how did you find yourself on two reality shows?
00:03I don't know, they find me.
00:05Were you, because Dancing with the Stars and Unwell, Winter Games,
00:09both of them instant yeses for you, or did it take some convincing?
00:13Yeah, I mean, I think both of them were like short-term projects.
00:16I think it's one thing to like commit to, I don't know, Housewives, whatever, the real Housewives.
00:21It's kind of like your career, and you theoretically could be doing it for years
00:25while we're Dancing with the Stars is like one and done.
00:27Then you'll end up doing it for like two, three months maximum, or like two weeks like me.
00:32I mean, in justice for Anna Delvey on Dancing with the Stars,
00:36I wish that you would have lasted longer simply because it was nice to sort of like get to know
00:41the real you in a way
00:42because I think like for someone like me, I almost felt like I knew you because I watched Inventing Anna,
00:48but that was obviously such like a really-
00:51Dramatization.
00:52Yeah, major dramatization.
00:54But I truly, I was like, oh, that is Anna Delvey,
00:56but like it's absolutely not you.
00:58So when you decided to do Dancing with the Stars,
01:00was that sort of like in the back of your mind like, oh, like let me introduce people to like
01:04the real me?
01:06Not really.
01:07I was kind of just like in the reactive mode,
01:12and it was like a few weeks after I got released from house arrest.
01:16So like everything kind of happened really quickly.
01:18I did not really, like I did not want to do it at first.
01:22It's just not really my thing.
01:24It's like, it's too earnest.
01:26I don't think like my sense of humor translates into a show like this.
01:30And it's like it was, none of this was a surprise, but like it's fine.
01:33Were you more like, okay, the check is good, so let me just fly out to LA?
01:35I think it's what my team told me.
01:38It's like it's great that it's like ABC and Disney.
01:42Yeah.
01:42It's like, you know, because everyone's like, well, how can you work with a criminal?
01:47Right.
01:48Yeah.
01:48It was like kind of like this because they're very vanilla family network.
01:52Oh, totally.
01:53So it's good exposure for you to be in different places too and everything.
01:56Yeah.
01:56And I thought it's like, what's the worst thing that's going to happen?
01:59Like I'll work out too much.
02:00I also love that with Dancing with the Stars, even though maybe it wasn't your thing, maybe
02:04it was a little bit too earnest, you kind of ended up with the most fun partner, Ezra.
02:08He's so, how, are you still friends with Ezra?
02:10No, not really.
02:11Really?
02:12Wait, why not?
02:13Was he not as fun as we think he is?
02:15He will go his own way, so.
02:17Okay.
02:17All right.
02:18What did you think of the tattoo, the nothing tattoo?
02:20Did you like it?
02:21It's, whatever, I don't care.
02:23That's like he made a permanent tribute to you, to his time dancing with you.
02:27You're short two weeks together.
02:28Yeah.
02:29Good for him.
02:30It's hard to, I mean, I kind of understand why they don't appreciate my sense of humor
02:36because that's their whole life.
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