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00:03Firstly, I want to thank you with your heart that you have accepted this conversation on behalf of the entire
00:14advisory board, on behalf of our international advisors, on behalf of 150,000 schools and colleges, but most importantly, sir,
00:24on behalf of the 2,000 Gen Z and Gen Alpha who are watching you today,
00:28Thank you for accepting our invitation.
00:35Sir, aaj kahi prashna hai, man mein kahi prashna hai, aur phella prashna ye hai, samwaad ke baare mein, mein
00:45toh believe karta ho that dialogue can solve anything and everything,
00:51but at the same point in time, log bolte hai, ki dialogue when it fails, toh andolan karna zaroori hai,
00:58aur abhi hum log ne dekha thode din pehle, ke ek andolan hua tha,
01:02and log tantra mein ye maantah ho ke the two things are important, one is dialogue, second is andolan.
01:13The idea is that andolan only happens when dialogue fails.
01:17It's, toh kahi loge aise boolte hai, aur kahi logeo ka maan na hai, ki bharat sarkar ne yadhi pehle
01:23hi dialogue kar liya ho ta, pehle hi gen zi se baat kar liya ho ta,
01:27toh din anandolan karne ki awashakta nahi ho ta.
01:30Toh, ispe aapka, ispe aapka kiya rai hai eek, aur dousra, ki anandolan karna kharab hai kya?
01:40Yeh doh prashnah hai start me sir.
01:47Anandolan bhi ek dialogue ka tariqa hai.
01:51Hame yaa bẹtke baat kar raha hai, ispe a s'majh me a gaya thik hai,
01:57nahi toh humara debet chalega.
02:01Aap kisi kathinahe me ho ho, ya mahi kisi kathinahe me ho ho,
02:05sulhya na aapke hat me hai, meri hat me or nahi ho raha hai,
02:09toh mein chilla hon ga, mein aapko waha se le ke aon ga,
02:13ee pehle karo, urgent hai, aisa ko hon ga.
02:17Democracy mein protest bhi consensus banane ka eek thariqa hai.
02:25Lot of views come together and a consensus is evolved after discussion.
02:31That discussion may happen through dialogue.
02:35Due to various reason, if that thing is not heard,
02:40agitation pa ja sakte hai.
02:43Likiye sab karna hai to evolve the consensus,
02:48not to create divisions.
02:51Ab jenji ki baat hai,
02:54toh abhi joh why grievance toh jenayin hai.
02:59Baharat ki shikshah mein bhout kuch karne ke awashaktah hai,
03:02nahi ho raha, isli baat hoti hai.
03:05Toh dialogue ho na chahiye.
03:10Daialog ke baat nahi ho ta toh kya karna baat ki baat.
03:16Or merah anubhav aisa hai jenji ke baare mein.
03:19Hum jab lhoog jenji ki aiyo me thhe,
03:23toh hemari pidi ka sabah o aisa tha ki,
03:26bade joh kaitte tye ho maan late tye.
03:29Hum question nai kertte tye.
03:31Ous samaj ki parishtet.
03:34Abhi jenji, o jenalfa, o prashna puchhti hai.
03:39Toh unko logical answer chahiye.
03:41Correct.
03:42Or iske saath piaar chahiye.
03:46Piaar hai toh hi answer dhe sakte hai.
03:49Aapka mera parichay nahi,
03:50aapas me koji sambandh nahi.
03:52Or aapne prashna puchha,
03:53toh me puchha,
03:53tumko nho toh puchnwaal hai,
03:55aisa hooga.
03:56Lekin hum janate eek dousari ko,
03:58aapas me koji sambandh hai,
03:59toh aapne puchha,
03:59toh me javaab dhuun gha.
04:02Toh ye baat hai honi chahiye.
04:06Democracy me,
04:07ye tariqa hai.
04:11Angleji me debet kehet hai,
04:13lekin humari yaha shabda hai shastra art.
04:16Uus me,
04:18kuwaad aur pratiwaad nahi hodha hai.
04:20Uus me,
04:20puurvapakshya uttarpakshya hodha hai.
04:23Toh hum sab pailu hoon ko dhekhte hai.
04:25Or har ek ka,
04:26apna apna dhekne ka nazariya hai.
04:28Toh eek naya dimension dhyan me aata hai,
04:30her subject ka.
04:31Toh we get so many opinions,
04:33human contrary opinions,
04:35they together form the total view of the truth.
04:41Toh ye hoonai chahiye.
04:44Toh,
04:45Uzenji na anadolan nahi karna chahiye,
04:47agar aasa mahi karunga nahi.
04:49Lekin kaise karna, kya karna,
04:52democracy me,
04:53iske tariqe bhi bataye hai.
04:56Aab constitution humko jinnoha nahi diya.
04:59Dr. Baba sahab ambedkar ka,
05:00agar dho speeches humne padh liye.
05:03Toh eek kaisa karna, kya karna,
05:05uska usme inndication hai.
05:08Ou dhekhna chahiye.
05:38Or,
06:08shudu hua hota,
06:09abhi sir,
06:11kahi baar eise bhi lagta hai,
06:12ki protest pe hum nikal aaye.
06:14Toh loog humne anti-national bula deke.
06:16Toh loog humne bolegye,
06:17saying that these people are agents of some country and so and so.
06:21Toh sir,
06:22I am saying that
06:26I am saying that
06:27Jenjiya agar agitation kar rahi hai.
06:30Toh anti-national toh hai nahi.
06:32Aapne loog hai.
06:34Aapne next generation hai.
06:36Jee sir.
06:36Is aapne pan se.
06:38Dialog ka saath mahi nai bola apna pan chahiye.
06:41Sambandha chahiye.
06:42Ou amara sambandha hai.
06:44Uska recognition chahiye.
06:46Tab yeh dialogue hota hai.
06:48Voha ki baat hum ko samaj me ati hai.
06:50Hemaari baat voha samaj me ati hai.
06:52Yeh hota hai.
06:53Toh ho na chahiye.
06:55Or,
06:57Jenjiya agar eisei hai.
06:59Aisa,
06:59May toh bilkul nahi maanta.
07:01Aapke amantate.
07:02Without it,
07:03Context bhi jab jab poochha gya.
07:05Toh,
07:06May ne bata hai.
07:06Or, aaj bhi,
07:07May ne aapke saamne bola hai.
07:10Ki,
07:11Mujhe lagta hai.
07:12Ki,
07:12Yeh joh nai pedi hai,
07:13Jenjiya gen alfa.
07:15Yeh abhi,
07:16Joh humari existing video,
07:17Usse jada honest hai.
07:19Ani waa,
07:20Madya hai.
07:21Or,
07:21Deshubhati aur sewa ka,
07:23Honest appeal,
07:25Usmeen chalata hai.
07:26Thank you sir,
07:26Yeh aapne bata hai,
07:27Isse sabse honest generation,
07:29Jen alfa hai.
07:30Log bolte hai ki,
07:31Bacchye bhagwan ka swaroop hai.
07:32Toh,
07:33Aaj kal ki bacchye,
07:34Jen alfa hai,
07:34Jen zi hai.
07:36Par sir,
07:36Toh,
07:37Toh,
07:37Toh,
07:37Toh,
07:44Toh,
07:44Unpe kahi bar,
07:46Joh innocent hai,
07:47Unpe kahi bar,
07:49Lati charge hoota hai,
07:50Pellet gun firing hua tha,
07:52Toh,
07:52Yeh sare,
07:55Ab,
07:56Yeh sare vishay ka,
07:57Mare,
07:57Or,
07:58Aak,
07:59Aap ko,
08:00Aapka kya manna hai,
08:01Yeh hoona chahi,
08:02Yeh na,
08:04Yeh,
08:05Yeh,
08:15Yeh,
08:16Yeh,
08:18Yeh,
08:20Yeh,
08:20Yeh,
08:20Yeh,
08:43Yeh,
08:45Yeh,
08:50Yeh,
08:52Yeh,
08:55Yeh,
08:57Yeh,
09:04Yeh,
09:06Yeh,
09:06Yeh,
09:06Yeh,
09:06Because of education and education and education that this census has been years made,
09:10In this census,
09:10Out of thenah Middle East,
09:12What drmat day,
09:13And here,
09:17Yesh ma,
09:18I said,
09:20Eps Google Сп Kaijara be const centres,
09:20May 8k and executives Myh he is a standard of school,
09:21May 8k schools,
09:24Are learnt that we have about toilets,
09:28Toh my kids kids are little bit.
09:29A town,
09:31How are you out?
09:32Nice,
09:33Let me finish the question.
10:04For me, this is a national emergency because if the country needs to be built, the education will be fine.
10:11Do you believe that the next generation, to become stronger, we should focus more on education?
10:16And if so, what is the one education reform that you propose, sir?
10:22First of all, it won't happen.
10:25I'll tell you two, three.
10:27First is that education is not a commercial business.
10:32It's not a business.
10:34It's the necessity of life.
10:37That's why education is always good.
10:40You get to meet everyone.
10:43You need to structure it.
10:45You need to think about it.
10:46You need to take a lot of money.
10:47You need to take a lot of money.
10:50The second education is our responsibility.
10:55So, whoever works is fine, you need to do it.
10:58If it's not happening, it's going to be fine.
10:59You need to do it.
11:00You need to do it.
11:01But what can I do in my place?
11:04It's not a good place.
11:06There are some places, some places.
11:09So, the students and the workers have been fine.
11:15It has a good place.
11:17It's not a good place.
11:19It is not a good place.
11:19That's what we do in the next few days.
11:24It has been the most hard times.
11:27It has been done in our district.
11:29in the school, and did it like that.
11:34Now the financial burden of education, if the society will be full, because education
11:41is not provided by the government, it is our children's education.
11:46So our children's education is good, so we should also be active.
11:51We should also be vigilant and assist also.
11:55We should also be trained.
11:56If this is an activism, this will be very soon.
12:02Others who have taught education, they should also be training.
12:08We have to start from teachers, train the teachers.
12:12We should do this.
12:14After that, the talks come from the past.
12:17After that, we do not do it in the past, we do it together.
12:20We should do it together.
12:21But the basic thing is that we are giving education for the next school.
12:29We are not giving money to school.
12:32We should not give money to school.
12:43This should happen.
13:32That's right.
13:33This is true that there are 1 crore teachers, but there are 10 lakh teachers' vacancy.
13:38Sir, so I believe this.
13:39And when this was complete, I took a placard.
13:42Not for CJP, not for BJP.
13:45I'm for education. How many like me?
13:48I took it, sir.
13:50But, sir, in this case, we had given that
13:53please form a committee of experts.
13:56And that committee of experts has been made,
13:58which is a political committee, sir.
14:00But in 2024, there was also a committee made.
14:03Radhakrishnan sir's committee.
14:04These committees are made by every government.
14:07But, sir, no government has not given 6% to education.
14:11So, sir, I'm from your perspective,
14:13because the national media is also watching us.
14:16So, from your perspective,
14:17do you think that the government should pay more attention to education, sir?
14:23Because the 6% of the budget allocation is still,
14:26and we are doing that.
14:28We are not going to be a big part of our organization.
14:31We are not going to be a big part of our organization.
14:33But the government's opinion is,
14:34it's a way we think it's a way to implement it.
14:37So, we should implement it.
14:38If the government should be a good implementation,
14:40what should we do?
14:43We should do it.
14:44We should not do it.
14:45Because,
14:46because,
14:48I am sure someone hasn't said this,
14:51that the government is going to be a whole school.
14:55So,
14:56everyone can go to school.
14:58The school is a great benefit.
15:02Our workers are doing this as well.
15:05so that 23,000 is going to be a good school in many months, so it's a prestige.
15:11So this is not going to happen in the budget.
15:14It's going to happen with our new PDIs and it's going to happen with it.
15:18I think this is the need for the first place of spirit.
15:23The rest of us will be going to happen.
15:25If this happens, then there will be a mood in the population.
15:29And no government or any politician can ignore it.
15:33So without anodolant, it will be going to happen.
15:36Without anodolant, it will be going to happen and the 6% budget will get.
15:40It will get.
15:41Oh wow.
15:42It feels good to hear it.
15:43And I am sure that this is something that everybody resonates with who believes truly in the cause of education.
15:48Yes.
15:51But Sir, education ke alawa, Gen Z and Gen Alpha ko baut anik aniya cheese influence kerti hai.
16:00It's a big thing that I think I have seen as anodolant.
16:05It's social media.
16:07Instagram ke videos baut prabhaavit kerti hai.
16:11Abhi instagram pe sir, aysa hi hai.
16:13Algorithm jaysse chalte hai.
16:15Toh matlab aap prime minister Modi ke video like kar lo,
16:18Toh aapko eek hi tariqe ke vichar dharah mil egi.
16:21Aap Rahul ji ke video like kar lo,
16:23Toh dousari tariqe ke vichar dharah mil egi.
16:24Toh iis me joh bacho ka joh ho raha hai.
16:29They are becoming more and more polarized.
16:31Toh social media pe joh real models bhi hai.
16:34Toh eek toh yoh polarization ka vishay hai.
16:36Or dousra hai sir,
16:37Jib mein cricket dekhta tha,
16:39Tabhi mera role model Rahul rivit tha.
16:41Toh sir,
16:43Sao ball me ekran bana ta ta,
16:44Sab log tali bajathe te hai.
16:46Sir, abhi generation badal gaya hai.
16:48Instant gratification ka generation hai.
16:49Voh log ko like turent chahi hai.
16:51Voh log ko cheese turent chahi hai.
16:54Kyunki voh log ki joh real models hai.
16:56Joh instagram pe dekhthe hai.
16:58Voh vese hai.
17:00Toh,
17:00Hum log dosh therahate hai gen z ko.
17:03Jib bhi kuchh galat bolte hai vagyara etc etc.
17:07Joh woh bolna nahi chahi hai.
17:08But at the same point and time,
17:10Social media or samaj ka bhi,
17:12Ismae bhoat bada yogdahan hai.
17:14Toh,
17:14How should India tackle social media?
17:17Anya,
17:17Disho nne toh ban kar diya.
17:19Below the yeh joh sixteen.
17:20Australia hai, Finland hai vagyara.
17:22Toh,
17:23Ban karna chahi hai,
17:24Aya dúsra kuch tariqe se upyok karna chahi iska?
17:28Aapke prashna me hi uttar hai.
17:31Niyam banana,
17:32Discipline banana.
17:35Yeh thik hai,
17:36Lekin yeh tab yashas hui ho ta hai.
17:38Jib attitude badde le.
17:40Toh,
17:41Kanun toh baut bane hai.
17:42Hun ka kya ho raha hai.
17:44Toh,
17:45Toh,
17:45Samaj maane tab kanun chalta hai.
17:48Toh,
17:49Aapne bata ya ki,
17:51Role model waise hai.
17:53Role model toh,
17:54Pehle predict hai.
17:55Woh waise hai.
17:57Toh,
17:58Role model ko,
18:01Toh,
18:03Toh,
18:05Toh,
18:06Toh,
18:08Toh,
18:09Toh,
18:09Toh,
18:09Toh,
18:11Toh,
18:13Toh,
18:16***
18:1830$
18:19Toh,
18:20Mercedes
18:20Q
18:22that 10,000,000 people are going to go back to my bed.
18:26That's how I have to see it.
18:28This is the Vivek.
18:30In social media, now the technology is IC,
18:35that you can put a word in your mouth,
18:38and put a word in your mouth,
18:39and you can show all these things.
18:42Fake videos, etc.
18:45After knowing this,
18:47when you apply to social media,
18:50with an authentic source of verification,
18:52without trust.
18:55You need to see this.
18:58So, some discipline,
19:00self-imposed discipline about the media,
19:03you have to do this.
19:05Whether it is the Vivek Utpan,
19:08what to do, how to do it,
19:11it will have to stay the first generation of people.
19:14It will have to stay the first generation of people.
19:16After that, if this discipline becomes a place,
19:19then it will work.
19:21Then, if you think about anything,
19:23then it will go in two numbers.
19:26And it will go further.
19:28It will not happen.
19:30That's why,
19:31if you have to give it to this,
19:32then you have to give it to the whole society.
19:34So, this will work.
20:06Sir,
20:06you have to get more views.
20:08You have to get more likes.
20:10You have to get more views.
20:11perhaps Rahul Dravid
20:12will not get the opportunity for the T20 team.
20:14So,
20:15the time has changed a little.
20:17So,
20:17how do you bring new role models to this?
20:19How do you bring new role models?
20:22now this is a bit of contrast, huh?
20:24We do not believe in violence.
20:26Yes,
20:30They don't subscribe to violence, then why they believe in the role models which are
20:36violent. So we have to decide. It is India's international movement to unite nations.
20:59From Rome and Anya countries, some ambassadors and students have also joined.
21:07So my question is that there are two countries in our face, which are our special interests,
21:15Pakistan and China. And these two countries have been fighting for many times.
21:21When they are fighting, then there is a thought that we should not talk to them.
21:26That because they are fighting against us. What is your take on civil to civil, civilian
21:32to civilian ties in the times of conflict and even otherwise, should they continue? And
21:40if so, how?
21:42Now, in the times of conflict, we have to go with whatever government military does.
21:53But that should not sever the ties which are already there. You have given two examples,
22:00Pakistan and China. China people say that for 2000 years, Bharat has given us some values. And
22:15Pakistan was Bharat less than 100 years before. This should not be forgotten. These ties cannot
22:26be severed. They can put at hold till conflict is there. But what is the solution, Bharat solution?
22:34Bharat solution is not conquering or obliterating others. To form that harmonious assimilating process. That
22:48requires dialogue. So conflicts may halt all these relations, but they cannot save us. They should not. Sometimes,
22:59after resolution of conflict, we have to take up the sutra from where we have left it. And we have
23:06to continue. So permanent enmity,
23:10permanent hatred is not the solution. When there is some trouble, we have to look after it. And there is
23:16a way to look after it. We have to be all for that way. But that is a temporary thing.
23:22It comes due to politics. It is not that the Pakistanis are wholeheartedly enemies of India.
23:28That is not that the Pakistanis are wholeheartedly enemies of India. It is not there. But states, politics, international borders,
23:37that is also there. That is a fight of life. So during conflict, we are with our government. We are
23:43with our military. But we know that sometimes it has to cease and we have to be one. Because humanity
23:50is one.
23:51How lovely. Humanity is one. And therefore, sir, I think, Bharat can be both Vishwamitra and Vishwaguru in that sense.
24:01And we can hopefully unite the world. Because we are not looking to conquer any other country. But we are
24:06looking to unite.
24:06So, sir, first, let me ask you, one time. In today's time, civil society, the students of Pakistan and China,
24:14or the normal civil society, have to keep them together, call them, call them, call them, call them, call them,
24:22call them, call them?
24:49Okay.
24:51Okay.
24:54Okay.
25:06So, sir.
25:09I have spoken to you in this, and you have spoken, and you have said that everybody is a part
25:15of the same community, and we should treat everyone in the same manner. But, sir, my question then to you
25:21in this is,
25:21that same-sex marriage
25:24which is not yet legalized
25:26and the idea of this
25:30and the idea of this
25:30and Gen Z and Gen Alpha
25:32are a lot of talking about it
25:34that I want to ask you
25:36why is the RSS stating
25:38that same-sex marriage should be
25:42disallowed
25:43so
25:48did I ever say same manner
25:51sorry sir
25:52did I ever say same manner
25:54no sir
25:55no
25:55no
25:57LGBT or whatever
25:58they are all part of the society
26:01thank you
26:02which we belong to
26:04and in our society
26:06there is a tradition
26:08of accommodating
26:11there was systems
26:13now
26:15marriage
26:17marriage is not
26:19in our tradition
26:20vivaha
26:21that is not a convenience
26:23created
26:24so that
26:25two people
26:27should live together
26:30it is
26:32an institution
26:33which is created
26:35by marriage
26:35family
26:37family is
26:38unit of society
26:39and
26:41next generations
26:42are
26:43trained
26:44and in
26:45kutumba
26:46or family
26:46to be
26:48good citizens
26:49of that country
26:51so training of next generation
26:53by their
26:54relations
26:55mata, pita
26:57all these things
26:59that is also
27:00an ancient system
27:01running
27:02now
27:03we have to have
27:06some system
27:06first
27:10the existing system
27:12if we disturb
27:14and new systems
27:15we don't have
27:16that will create
27:18a
27:19conflict
27:20secondly
27:23we cannot
27:24mix
27:25these things
27:27we have to
27:29prepare the society
27:30first
27:31because laws
27:32don't dictate
27:33society
27:33society
27:34dictates
27:35the laws
27:37so we have to
27:38educate the society
27:39first
27:41that stage
27:42is not there
27:42and at this stage
27:44if we tamper
27:45with the
27:45vivaha system
27:46that will create
27:48some other
27:49side effects
27:51so instead of
27:52that
27:53prepare a system
27:54which can
27:55accommodate
27:56all these people
27:57they are part of
27:57the society
27:58and it should be
27:59seen to accordingly
28:00that is definite
28:01but manner
28:03can change
28:04manner has to
28:05change
28:05this situation
28:07we have to
28:08have these
28:09special measures
28:11that is why
28:13same sex
28:14marriage
28:14don't say that
28:16how these
28:17same sex
28:18companions
28:19can live together
28:21you have to
28:21devise some system
28:22you can form
28:24a law for that
28:25society will
28:26accept that
28:26how lovely
28:28how lovely
28:29so same sex
28:31companionship
28:32uske baare mein
28:33vimaksh or
28:33vichar karna chahiye
28:34and eventually
28:35uspe koi law
28:36pass karna chahiye
28:37ki that becomes
28:38acceptable in society
28:39i am so glad
28:40not only that
28:41yes
28:41that will
28:43continue the smooth
28:45running of the
28:45society in future
28:46also
28:47that type
28:51for gen z and
28:53gen alpha
28:53and the many
28:54conversations that
28:55we have about
28:56this government
28:56having progressive
28:58and sometimes
28:59not so progressive
29:00views and have
29:00people from the
29:02same ideology
29:02having such views
29:03i am so glad
29:04that you made
29:05this statement
29:06clarified it
29:07and you said
29:08this
29:08sir
29:09aurik vishay hai
29:10maheela ke baare mein
29:12and you have
29:14stated saying
29:15that men must
29:16step back
29:16and empower
29:17women to lead
29:18and i quote you
29:20in this
29:20word to word
29:21apne ye
29:22bataya hai
29:23according to
29:24you
29:24what is the
29:25role of
29:25indian women
29:26in society
29:27today
29:30role of
29:32role of
29:33women
29:34in not only
29:35bharatiyah society
29:36everywhere in
29:37the world
29:38we take it
29:39that it is
29:40equal and
29:41complementary
29:43to each
29:44other
29:46so
29:48they have to
29:49be trained
29:49in capacities
29:50as we train
29:52men in capacities
29:53everything
29:54they can do
29:55and everything
29:57they should be
29:58trained for
30:01aur kya
30:01pujhna hai
30:03that role is
30:04there
30:05aur sir
30:06isme ye
30:06pujhna hai
30:07sir
30:07the rss
30:08truly believes
30:09that women
30:09are equal
30:10partners
30:10in nation
30:11building
30:11but sir
30:13then why
30:13does the
30:13core
30:14organization
30:14of the
30:15rss
30:15remain
30:16intrinsically
30:17male
30:17and
30:18why is
30:20why is
30:22why is
30:23the solution
30:23okay
30:24guys
30:24this is
30:25a
30:25samwad
30:25this is
30:26not
30:26a
30:26viwad
30:27this is
30:28okay
30:28this is
30:28samwad
30:29you are
30:29asking
30:29questions
30:30from
30:30their
30:30mind
30:30that is
30:31why
30:31they are
30:31clapping
30:31sir
30:32this
30:32clarify
30:33that
30:36these
30:40questions
30:40the
30:40reason
30:40why
30:41they are
30:41clapping
30:41so
30:41much
30:42have
30:42been
30:42crowdsourced
30:43from
30:43the
30:43students
30:43who are
30:44sitting
30:44here
30:44not
30:44just
30:45sitting
30:45here
30:45but
30:45from
30:45all
30:45the
30:46schools
30:46and
30:46colleges
30:46that
30:46we
30:47work
30:47with
30:50so
30:51why is
30:53the
30:53solution
30:53always
30:54to
30:54keep
30:54women
30:55in
30:55a
30:55separate
30:55parallel
30:56wing
30:56rather
30:57than
30:57integrating
30:58them
30:58into
30:58the
30:59apex
30:59decision
31:00making
31:00body
31:00of
31:01the
31:01RSS
31:02so
31:03this
31:03question
31:04has
31:04been
31:04asked
31:06because
31:07you
31:08have
31:08incomplete
31:09information
31:12in
31:13all
31:13the
31:14organizations
31:14that
31:15swan
31:15shavaks
31:16are
31:16running
31:16women
31:18are
31:19shouldering
31:20responsibilities
31:21with
31:22men
31:23in
31:24equal
31:24capacities
31:26except
31:27RSS
31:28there is
31:28a
31:28reason
31:28when
31:30RSS
31:30started
31:33if
31:34we
31:34had
31:35started
31:35the
31:35organization
31:36in
31:36women
31:37also
31:37we
31:38wouldn't
31:38have
31:39tried
31:40that
31:41times
31:41were
31:41like
31:41this
31:42this
31:43question
31:43would
31:43not
31:43have
31:44been
31:44asked
31:44at
31:45that
31:45time
31:45because
31:46it
31:46was
31:46very
31:47natural
31:47to
31:48form
31:48separate
31:48organizations
31:49of
31:49women
31:50secondly
31:51the
31:52organization
31:52that
31:53were
31:53formed
31:54by
31:54women
31:55for
31:56the
31:56same
31:56purpose
31:57rastrasya
31:58sevika
31:59samiti
32:00it
32:00had
32:01and
32:01it
32:01has
32:01and
32:02it
32:02will
32:02have
32:02full
32:03support
32:03from
32:04RSS
32:04even
32:05training
32:06but
32:06they
32:07have
32:07told
32:07us
32:07that
32:08we
32:08will
32:08work
32:09here
32:09you
32:10don't
32:10interfere
32:10you
32:11work
32:11there
32:12we
32:12will
32:12help
32:13each
32:14other
32:15that
32:15mandate
32:16when
32:16they
32:17will
32:17withdraw
32:17we
32:18will
32:18start
32:19doing
32:19work
32:19in
32:19women
32:20also
32:20but
32:21in
32:21apex
32:21body
32:22of
32:22RSS
32:22akhil
32:23bhartiya
32:23prateen
32:24sabha
32:24all
32:25the
32:25women
32:25working
32:26in
32:26the
32:26public
32:27field
32:27they
32:28are
32:28also
32:28invited
32:29in
32:29the
32:29process
32:30of
32:31decision
32:31making
32:31they
32:32are
32:33there
32:33for
32:33full
32:33three
32:34days
32:36so
32:36this
32:37information
32:38you should
32:39have
32:39then
32:40this
32:40question
32:40will
32:40not
32:40otherwise
32:42sometimes
32:43we
32:44need
32:44this
32:44kind
32:45of
32:45information
32:45from
32:46you
32:46it
32:46is
32:47better
32:47that
32:47you
32:47give
32:47it
32:47than
32:47I
32:48give
32:48is
32:48why
32:48you
32:48ask
32:48questions
32:50and
32:50I
32:50answer
32:51them
32:51but
32:52there
32:52is
32:52another
32:53thing
32:53is
32:54that
32:54you
32:55said
32:56and
32:56last
32:57we
32:57said
32:58I
32:58clarified
32:59about
33:00LGBTQ
33:00if
33:02there
33:03is
33:03if
33:03the
33:03women's
33:04wing
33:04of
33:04the
33:04RSS
33:04says
33:05that
33:05we
33:06don't
33:06need
33:06a
33:07women's
33:07wing
33:07anymore
33:07then
33:08we
33:08will
33:08see
33:08one
33:09cohesive
33:09cohort
33:10that
33:10is
33:10between
33:11the
33:11RSS
33:12that
33:12is
33:12the
33:12men
33:12and
33:13the
33:13women
33:13and
33:13everybody
33:13else
33:14equally
33:14in
33:14a
33:14part
33:15of
33:15the
33:15organization
33:15it
33:17is
33:17not
33:17a
33:17wing
33:17it
33:18is
33:18separate
33:19autonomous
33:20organization
33:21if
33:21they
33:21say
33:22that
33:23okay
33:23now
33:23RSS
33:24should
33:24also
33:24work
33:25so
33:26we
33:26will
33:26start
33:27working
33:27in
33:27okay
33:28okay
33:29okay
33:30sir
33:32second
33:32last
33:32question
33:33mere
33:33or
33:33say
33:34ek
33:35wishe
33:35which
33:36is
33:36complementary
33:37to
33:37education
33:38education
33:38ke
33:39ba
33:3924
33:39ke
33:39ba
33:40students
33:41essentially
33:4121
33:42ke
33:42ba
33:42they
33:42look
33:43for
33:43jobs
33:44bharat
33:45mein
33:45there
33:45are
33:451.6
33:46billion
33:46people
33:46now
33:46and
33:47there
33:47are
33:4840
33:48crore
33:48who are
33:49gen
33:49z
33:49sir
33:49to
33:50is
33:50ma
33:50zahir
33:51si
33:51baat
33:51hai
33:51that
33:51itne
33:52saari
33:52youth
33:52ke
33:53liye
33:53jobs
33:53ek
33:54ek
33:54sath
33:55create
33:55karna
33:55it
33:55is
33:55a
33:55difficult
33:56task
33:56but
33:57at
33:57the
33:57same
33:57point
33:58in
33:58time
33:58it
33:58is
33:58also
33:59true
33:59that
33:59there
34:00is
34:00a
34:0016
34:00percent
34:01youth
34:02unemployment
34:02that
34:03is
34:03there
34:03in
34:03our
34:03country
34:03sir
34:04it
34:04is
34:05also
34:05true
34:05sir
34:05that
34:06young
34:07people
34:07are
34:07not
34:08finding
34:08jobs
34:09of
34:09their
34:09choice
34:10it
34:10is
34:11true
34:11that
34:11there
34:12is
34:12an
34:13all
34:13time
34:13income
34:14gap
34:14between
34:15the
34:15rich
34:15and
34:16the
34:16poor
34:16last
34:17time
34:17such
34:17kind
34:18of
34:18inequality
34:18happened
34:19was
34:19in
34:191922
34:20the
34:20top
34:211
34:21percent
34:21now
34:22holds
34:2240
34:23percent
34:23of
34:23our
34:23national
34:24income
34:24sir
34:24to
34:25sir
34:25unemployment
34:26may
34:27bhi
34:27kaffi
34:27charcha
34:28hoti
34:28hai
34:28what
34:29is
34:29your
34:29take
34:30on
34:30unemployment
34:31and
34:31what
34:32should
34:32samaj
34:33do
34:33and
34:34what
34:34should
34:34sarkar
34:34do
34:35about
34:35this
34:36now
34:39ek
34:40mindset
34:41humko
34:42badalna
34:42chahiye
34:44employment
34:45is
34:45not
34:46only
34:46jobs
34:48it
34:48is
34:48also
34:49entrepreneurship
34:50it
34:51is
34:51also
34:51skilled
34:52work
34:54lekin
34:54unfortunately
34:55abhi
34:55kya
34:55hai
34:57samaj
34:57mein
34:58mindset
34:59hai
35:00ki
35:01hat
35:01se
35:01joh
35:01kama
35:02karta
35:02hai
35:02us
35:03ko
35:03prati
35:03shithani
35:05ab
35:074
35:08lakh
35:08rupiah
35:08mer
35:09paas
35:09hai
35:114
35:12lakh
35:12rupiah
35:12ka
35:12chawal
35:13gyehon
35:13kisan
35:13ke
35:14paas
35:14hai
35:16mai
35:17aur
35:18woh
35:18kisan
35:18kisi
35:19office
35:19mein
35:19ek
35:19saath
35:21mere
35:214
35:21lakh
35:22khane
35:22se
35:22peat
35:22nahi
35:22vart
35:23ta
35:23uska
35:24geuchawal
35:24kha
35:24ke
35:25mein
35:25peat
35:25bhrt
35:25ho
35:25lekin
35:26meri
35:27ijjat
35:27jadha
35:27hai
35:27mere
35:27paas
35:28cash
35:28hai
35:28us
35:29uske
35:30paas
35:30cash
35:30jiske
35:31liye
35:31woh
35:31hai
35:31uski
35:32izzat
35:32nahi
35:32hai
35:33ye
35:34hum
35:34ko
35:35isko
35:35kate
35:36shrama
35:36prati
35:37shtha
35:37dignity
35:37of
35:38labor
35:39we
35:40have
35:40to
35:41regain
35:41that
35:41woh
35:43nahi
35:43hai
35:43aur
35:44isle
35:44everybody
35:45runs
35:45after
35:46some
35:46service
35:47job
35:47preferably
35:49government
35:49service
35:50preferably
35:51in his
35:51own
35:52district
35:52preferably
35:53near
35:54his
35:54home
35:54office
35:55should
35:55be
35:55there
35:55and
35:57everybody
35:57rushes
35:58at
35:58the
35:58same
35:58door
35:59and
36:00no one
36:00gets
36:00in
36:02while
36:02there
36:03are
36:03fields
36:03where
36:04workers
36:04are
36:05not
36:05available
36:08i
36:09also
36:09see
36:11what
36:11we
36:12call
36:12menial
36:12jobs
36:14doing
36:14that
36:15people
36:15have
36:15earned
36:16earned
36:17wealth
36:17there
36:19are
36:19buildings
36:19panthela
36:20wala
36:21panchara
36:22wala
36:22aise
36:22look
36:23that
36:24registrar
36:25trained him
36:27for one
36:28year
36:28and
36:29one
36:29university
36:29registrar
36:30asked him
36:31to
36:32study
36:33didn't
36:33study
36:35but
36:35he
36:36has to
36:37what
36:38you want to
36:38do
36:39panthela
36:39so
36:40he
36:40ran
36:40panthela
36:40he
36:41ran
36:42at that
36:42time
36:43he
36:43was
36:44now
36:44he
36:44married
36:4629
36:47lakh
36:47property
36:48he
36:48ran
36:48panthela
36:49that
36:50registrar
36:51trained him
36:52for one year, to run a pantela.
36:59He is in Marath.
37:03He is in Marath.
37:06So, entrepreneurship
37:08should be,
37:09shramo-pratishtha
37:10should be.
37:12All people
37:13will go to jobs,
37:14government jobs,
37:15will not go to jobs.
37:15It is not like that.
37:17A good life
37:18is able to get it.
37:21A luxurious life
37:22will not be able to get it.
37:25Now, we need to be
37:27comfortable with it.
37:29We don't need to be
37:30like this.
37:31We will think about it.
37:32So, it will be like
37:33that we need to be
37:34in a place,
37:34we need to be
37:36and we don't have to do anything.
37:38So, we don't have to do all of it.
37:41But,
37:42unemployment can go
37:44if we have
37:45left the job
37:46above and below.
37:48And we have
37:49left the job,
37:49we have
37:50left the job.
37:51It is not a problem.
37:51My problem is not a problem.
37:53Society needs to go
37:54leave it.
37:54The one is
37:55losing it,
37:56has its value.
37:57You lose it,
37:59you lose it.
37:59you lose it,
38:00you lose it,
38:00you lose it,
38:01you lose it.
38:06You lose it.
38:07You lose it,
38:08you lose it.
38:09You lose it.
38:10You lose it.
38:12In education,
38:14you lose it.
38:17is reservation sir. And when it started, it is important to get reservation till the last
38:23person because the ones who do not get opportunities deserve the reservation. But maybe Ambedkar
38:29Ji na bhi nahi socha hooga ki reservation ab tek continue ho ra hai. I am just following
38:33up on that kiunki aapne ye bola hai. For general population sir, the thing is sir, reservation
38:39bahta ja ra hai, ek rajnitik vishay ban gaya hai and actually jo top 1% of SCST hai sir,
38:45they have become the creamy layer, jaysay obc mein hua hai. Aur sir, woh hi sari reservation
38:50le lete hai. Toh general category ke bachche jaysay mein hu, sir, merit mein achcha tha, itna
38:56achcha bhi nahi tha, par merit mein achcha tha, par sir, cut off list mein merah naam last
38:59aya. Toh sir, mein khali itna punchna chahata hu ki reservation according to you, do you
39:06think it is a, it should be lifelong or do you think now it is perhaps time in order
39:10to curtail reservation and bring it back both in employment and education sir?
39:15I will not answer you directly. I will ask you to go to what Dr. Baba sahai
39:21vaam bethkar thought about reservation. If honestly we follow his advice, then there
39:27is no problem. Social karano se reservation hai. Social discrimination jab tak hai, reservation
39:36chalega. Jhin ko mil gaya aur jhin ka thik ho gaya. Unh, utna large area cha hiya unhohne
39:43dee dhe na chahiye. Or agar yeh thik se hota hai toh waha aise swar bhi uđt raha hai, jahan
39:49chalega. Hamaa reservation milta hai. Oo ab aisa thode hai lekin khanah shuru ho gaya hai.
39:55Ki ab humne le le leya humara ahek ho gaya ab dhousra kya doetho. Kata gorai zation ki maang
40:01kuch paranto mein ho gai. Abhi supreme court ne bhi kaih diya. Ye kya huwa, islihe ki
40:05sab ko milna chahi hai. Toh there is a stream in those who get the reservations that this
40:14is for our upliftment, this is not the permanent major and we have to take advantage of this,
40:20improve ourselves and make this useful for others, those who haven't caught yet. Yeh
40:27maha stream hai. Usko encourage karna chahiye hai. Ismae rájniti chhođde deni chahiye
40:32hai. Sare major ko pramanikta se implement kiya toh, jaldi uski awashaktta samaapto ho
40:40ki. Tab vichar karhenge. Lekin iske rájniti hui. Isliye bad blood keriet ho ta hai. Vastov
40:49me saamajik ekata ke liye major laya gaya hai. Oh, diviziv upyog uska karne
40:57wali. In itself major is not wrong. But those who wield the sword, they are wielding it wrong
41:03way, intentionally. Unless that is cured, I don't see anything.
41:09S.K. I am so glad that you've said this. Coming from somebody like you, I am sure the
41:14country is listening. But ek aakhri prashna jo tha, woh pariyavaran pe hai. Kyunki climate
41:21change is something that we keep talking about in our conferences. Ek so art conferences
41:26karte hai, sir, ek sal mein aap janate ho, aur baad mein aakhri ka karikram hota hai.
41:30Toh climate change ke baare mein, everybody is very passionate in Gen Z and Gen Alpha and
41:35this is a cross. Mumbai mein bhi hai, Madurai mein bhi hai. Ye chote, shahir mein hai, chote,
41:41bade shahir mein, same samasya hai. O log bolte hai, koji bhi sarkaar hai, sir. Bhajap hai,
41:46ya congress hai, ya rashnabadi hai, jo bhi hai. Jabhi hum loogo ko awaz utana hai ke aap
41:53paed paodhe kyun kaat rahe ho. You can build the road in a different manner and sarkar nahi
41:58sunti hai. Toh, sir, kya karna chahiye, kyunki hamaari aayu abhi jo baihthe hai. Toh, hamaari
42:04aayu hai, pandraa, solah, satra, athra, unnis. Toh, apka kya sujao hai, what should young
42:10India do when they believe so much in climate change but sometimes governments don't believe
42:15as much in climate change?
42:17Oh, governments is a different thing. Anywhere, government is a different thing. It has to
42:25act in so many pressures. Secondly, the available model of development is itself unsustainable.
42:36That is why they have to plan for sustainability goals. And the only country which fulfills that
42:43goals per year is Bharat. Everybody else talks of this Paryavaran and never acts on it. We
42:53have to change the model. As you said, development can happen without harming Paryavaran. That
43:01is true. But that way is with us and we are not treading on it. So we have to change
43:10our
43:10development model. That is the basic thing. Without that, no government can act fully for
43:17the Paryavaran. Some lapses will be always there. Now this requires a tremendous pressure which
43:26should come from the society. If society has to create their pressure, society has to act
43:31on Paryavaran. So possible successful way, I see that we should start from our own home,
43:43with small things.
43:44such as we are taking a program. Now we are taking a program in the society.
43:48Save water, save plastic, save it, save it, save it, save it. So electricity is in our home,
43:55water is in our home. Now there are many things that are used to
44:01in our home, water is in our home, water is in our home, water is in our home, water is
44:12in our home.
44:12So the professor said this is called civilization. We are doing this. We are doing this.
44:27in our home, we are doing this. What is that? What time is the
44:30air there? How much time is the water in the shower? How long is that?
44:3345 minutes. 1 hour of people living in a while. 15 minutes is just done.
44:38How much water is needed for the house? Then the extreme Paryavaran
44:44trees is done by demonstrating half the bucket. Everything is done.
44:48put it all. But it's okay, one or two buckets, it's a lot. How does electricity happen? How
44:57much light happens in wedding events? How much extravaganza happens? We do all these
45:03things. On one side they do it, on the other side they do it. And what happens is that
45:11it doesn't happen to us. So we have to start from our home.
45:16If you have to start from our home, then awareness will be good and better.
45:23After this, the society will pressurize. No, what happens is that you don't need to cut trees,
45:30or trees, so you don't need to stop the trees. So you can stop the project.
45:34After saying that, the people of employment are going to be sitting.
45:40Now, both of you need to do employment, development, and development.
45:47So then we have to work to change the model. Again, if you have to change the model,
45:51then you have to go to the world. If you have to go to the world, then you have to
45:55go to the world.
45:56Then you have to go to the world. Then you have to go to someone's courage.
46:26You have to go to the world. You have to go to the world.
46:28were spotted,
46:30was selected by 39.
46:34That was their fault.
46:36All of them were people.
46:37So we are going to do it.
46:39So this is started.
46:40We should also put it in the hands.
46:42The tide will turn
46:43once the opinion is firmly planted
46:46in the public mind
46:47and the public does what it can do
46:51in their own home.
46:53Then it will change.
46:54It will need to change.
46:56It will need to change.
46:57And I think as you said,
47:00public momentum and public pressure
47:02will be made of public pressure
47:03and will be made of them.
47:04So it will automatically be made of policy
47:06and will be made of systematic planning.
47:09This is what you are saying.
47:10Absolutely.
47:14It is something that we have been worshipping
47:17the environment much.
47:21In Atarva Vedh, Prithvi Sukhth,
47:23there was a hymn in regards to
47:26protecting nature and worshipping nature.
47:28And we used to worship nature
47:29before we used to worship gods.
47:31But sir,
47:32I only hope that
47:38everybody else is also listening
47:40across the country.
47:41and I really hope that
47:42the message spreads
47:43and a lot of things
47:45that you have mentioned
47:46about education,
47:47about climate change,
47:48about all of these issues
47:49actually gets implemented.
47:51Before I let you go,
47:52because I have you,
47:52my question is a question.
48:07What are the three qualities that you think
48:10leaders of tomorrow should have
48:14in India and across the world?
48:16Three qualities that you think
48:18for next generation?
48:21for leadership.
48:22Look,
48:22for leadership,
48:23the first thing is,
48:26you have to lead from within.
48:29Lead by example.
48:32So,
48:34or teamwork,
48:36to run.
48:52That is why we have you today here.
48:59That is why we requested you
49:00as the chief guest here.
49:01I don't,
49:02I don't say myself,
49:03I don't see myself as leader,
49:06as a worker.
49:07But anyway,
49:09secondly,
49:10leaders behavior,
49:16there are five qualities.
49:24Shastrye Tyagi,
49:26Patrye Tyagi,
49:28Rane Ragi,
49:30Bhaagi Parijanais Sava.
49:33So he knows all the things
49:36and he appreciates qualities.
49:38Patrye Tyagi,
49:41Gunay Ragi,
49:42appreciate the qualities.
49:45He shares,
49:46Bhaagi Parijanais Sava,
49:48shares with all others.
49:49Whatever he gets,
49:51Kirti Prasiddhi,
49:53Success,
49:54Material Gains,
49:55he shares.
49:57Shastrye Boddha,
49:58he knows the science.
50:00Rane Yoddha,
50:01if there is strife,
50:02he is a warrior.
50:04Prabhu,
50:04Pancho Guni Bhavet,
50:05these are the five qualities
50:06of the leaders.
50:08And thirdly,
50:10leadership
50:12is
50:15to lead people
50:18to light.
50:22Not only material,
50:23also spiritual.
50:26Leadership
50:27is to create leaders.
50:30It is not to
50:31lead myself only.
50:34My leadership
50:34should create leaders.
50:36These three things
50:38have to be kept in mind
50:40when we
50:42take the training
50:43of leadership.
50:44and I am very glad
50:47you are doing
50:48an excellent job
50:49for last 15 years.
50:52So,
50:53I,
50:54today,
50:55I learned
50:56the expression.
50:59Today,
50:59I learned
51:00the expression
51:00from you
51:01of what I am saying
51:02like this.
51:12Thank you, sir.
51:14You have told us
51:16thank you
51:17that you
51:18have
51:19all
51:19turned on.
51:21Guys,
51:21before you clap,
51:22something I must say
51:23and you know,
51:24you can get the house
51:24lights on, sir.
51:26I want to say one thing
51:26for you.
51:26that you know,
51:31this conversation
51:31earlier was not
51:33a conversation.
51:33We've sent him
51:34the questions.
51:34I just gave him
51:35the questions
51:35right now
51:36in front of him.
51:37Earlier,
51:38it was supposed
51:38to be a speech
51:41and,
51:41sir,
51:41I want to say
51:43this for you.
51:43Please.
51:45Earlier,
51:45it was a speech
51:46that he was going
51:47to give
51:48and he was
51:49going to give
51:50a speech
51:51as Sarsangachalek
51:52gives great
51:53speeches.
51:54But I said,
51:55sir,
51:56aaj
51:57speech ke badle
51:58mein hum
51:59samwaad karte hai
51:59aur samwaad
52:01aise vishay pe
52:01karte hai
52:02jo yuva ko
52:03pasand hai
52:04aur yuva
52:04baat karte hai.
52:06Like education,
52:08like climate change,
52:09like LGBTQ+,
52:11like woman empowerment,
52:13issues which
52:14are spoken about
52:15by our generation
52:16but sometimes
52:17don't find
52:17space
52:18in popular
52:18discourse.
52:19The fact that
52:21we didn't give
52:22him the questions
52:23and I asked him
52:24all of these
52:24questions and
52:25he took all of
52:25them very
52:26willingly and
52:28with a smile
52:28on behalf of
52:30all the Gen Z
52:31and Gen Alpha.
52:37Hopefully,
52:38aapke madiyam se
52:39ye bhi batana chahoga
52:40that perhaps
52:41andolan is not
52:42the solution
52:43to everything.
52:43There is an
52:44alternate way.
52:45It is called
52:46samwaad.
52:47So,
52:50samwaad
52:50bana rahe
52:51and sir
52:52aapka ashirwad
52:53bana rahe
52:54sanstha pe
52:54aur gen Z
52:56or gen alpha
52:57pe.
52:57On behalf
52:58of the
52:59organization,
52:59may I request
53:00member of
53:01parliament
53:02from the
53:02Rajya Sabha
53:03who has been
53:03nominated by
53:04the president
53:04and the president
53:05and the president
53:06of the Indian
53:06Olympic Association
53:07who has just
53:08got commonwealth
53:08games to
53:09India,
53:10Abhijas.
53:10She has won
53:11in Glasgow
53:12and come back.
53:13Dr. P.T.
53:14Usha,
53:14can I request
53:15her to please
53:15come up?
53:26and up until
53:28if the music
53:29is played,
53:29it's fine.
53:53Matt
53:54who is
53:58being
53:59in
53:59water
53:59and
53:59we
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