00:00I'm familiar with what J.K. Garnison did cross-examine in the morning, where he said in the statement of
00:19claim 1MDB,
00:21Dato' Sri Najib conspire dengan Syarul dan juga dengan Jolo untuk menipu 1MDB.
00:32Jadi dari segi itu, J.K. Garnison telahpun membuat beberapa cross-examination,
00:42termasuk juga menggunakan dokumen saya yang sama, mengatakan orang yang conspire ialah Syarul dengan Jolo.
00:51Dato' Sri Najib tak tahu langsung.
00:53Tetapi dia atur dengan begitu rapi supaya Dato' Sri Najib akan dituduh atau blame on Dato' Sri Najib.
01:04That's what happened.
01:05You were talking at the end of cross-examination today about the deal allegedly.
01:12Can you elaborate on that and why he waived his right?
01:15Is it something that he waived the right to the judge?
01:17Yes, very important.
01:21When a witness is the biggest subject matter of a civil suit, in billions,
01:28Dato' Sri Najib was I think number three ke, I don't know.
01:32Of course together with Jolo, but Jolo could not be sued because he's ran away.
01:40Now, it is not easy just to withdraw.
01:44He could not, he said he doesn't know why the claims against him was withdrawn.
01:51That's like what the Malay call durian runtuh.
01:54It's one hell of a good luck.
01:58So, I suggested to him, semasa dia beri keterangan dalam kes 1MDB criminal,
02:06benda ni ditarik balik.
02:09Sebab, mungkin ada komplain and I am pasti.
02:13Kenapa saya nak bagi keterangan dengan lebih lanjut?
02:18Walau hal you kena, you don't sue saya.
02:20Jadi, dia negotiate dengan Dato' Sri Sri Ram.
02:24Dengan prosecution.
02:25Because Dato' Sri Sri Ram was influential in the 80's chambers together with Tommy Thomas.
02:32So, I alleged that there must have been a conspiracy to withdraw
02:37in order for him to be able to speak freely.
02:42And I was surprised, he never asked for immunity from the court,
02:47which he can, under 132.
02:49Reason why he didn't ask for immunity,
02:52because he was confident, nothing will happen to him.
02:56And therefore, the conspiracy, or what I suggested, exists.
03:00Okay, thank you.
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