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00:00Pag-usapan po natin ang pag-atras ng tatlo sa apat na articles of impeachment laban kay Vice President Sara
00:05Duterte
00:06at maapanahin po natin si Atty. J. Tolosa at ang kapagsalita ng Prosecution Panel.
00:12Atty. Tolosa, magandang umaga po.
00:15Magandang umaga, igan, at magandang umaga din sa lahat ng mga tigasubaybay natin ngayon.
00:19Ano po ang tunay na dahilan ng pag-atras nitong tatlong articles of impeachment?
00:25Kung kailan nasa gitna na po ng paglilitis?
00:29Yes, igan, at explain them.
00:32Yesterday, ang main reason naman po dyan, gusto na natin makapag-focus ang mga senator judges at ang public
00:39dito sa natitirang article on unexplained wealth.
00:43At ayaw na natin na magkaroon pa ng rason para madelay yung pag-tapos nitong impeachment proceedings na ito.
00:55Narinig natin po ulit-ulit yung sentimento ng public and some of the senator judges na as much as possible,
01:03ang gusto huwag nang tumawid pa ito hanggang next year.
01:07So nakita namin na the way to ensure this is just focus on one article.
01:14In their pre-trial brief, the respondent identified 90 potential witnesses.
01:22So you can just imagine kung hindi namin huwag gagawin ito kung gaano katagal yung itatagal pa ho ng proseso
01:29na ito.
01:29So after hearing all of the evidence that we've presented for the unexplained wealth,
01:36at pagkatapos ang pinagtahitahe ni Atty. Alex Cabrera, your expert witness,
01:42lahat itong mga bank records, AMLOC records, BIR, SALN, and all of those financial records.
01:47Which, kung kahit saan niya ko pinakita, yung sabihan niya,
01:53business on computation, yung unexplained wealth ng vice-presidente,
01:57ranging from 8.17 million to around 1.5 billion.
02:02So napagpasyahan na ho namin na ito na lang ho yung article ititira namin,
02:08and we will ask the court to rule on the guilt or innocence of the respondent based on this remaining
02:16article.
02:17Dahil malala din naman natin, dito sa kaso na ito,
02:22main question lang naman dito is,
02:25is the vice-president still fit to remain in office as the second highest official of the land?
02:30So in answering that question, hindi naman ho kailangan paramihin ng artikulo,
02:36it's patibayan ho ng ebidensya, and tiwala na ho kami doon sa ebidensyang nailatag na namin para dito.
02:43Ito ba'y nangangahulugan na yung ibang artikulo,
02:47yung confidential funds, grave threat, pati bribery,
02:51na mga empleyado ng DepEd, eh mahina po yung inyong mga ebidensya?
02:56Hindi naman ho, Igan, that is not the purpose,
03:03or that is not yung consequence dapat dito yung decision namin na itulito to that conclusion.
03:11Hindi ho yun yung rason doon.
03:13Ang rason lang ho, as we've stated,
03:15bakit pinili namin itong unexplained wealth,
03:17una-una, tingin namin,
03:18ito yung mas madaling masubaybayan at maunawaan ng mga kababayan natin.
03:24Ito, numero pinag-uusapan dito, based ito sa official records ng AMLOC, BIR,
03:31SAL-N na yung mga numero na yan,
03:33ng vice-presidente mismo,
03:35ang nagbigay ng mga yan sa ilalim ng panunong pa,
03:38at naibabangga doon sa mga makikita na actual na yaman na linalaman ng kanilang mga bank accounts.
03:46So madaling maintindihan.
03:47Pangalawa, nakikita namin, mas tama na ito ho yung itira dito.
03:53Dahil yung kaso na, for example, grave threats,
03:57gumugulong na din ho yung criminal case niya sa regional trial court.
04:02Pati naman ho yung doon sa confidential funds,
04:05merong related case din doon sa ombudsman.
04:07As opposed to dito sa unexplained wealth,
04:10mas tama ho siya dito dahil yung mga dokumento na kakailanganin,
04:14dito ho siya sa impeachment court, dito ho natin na sabpina, dito natin na pabukas.
04:20Dahil nga ho yung impeachment proceedings,
04:22exception ho siya doon sa mga applicable ng mga bank secrecy laws.
04:28So yun ho talaga yung mas tama na dito matira at dito pag-usapan before the impeachment court.
04:35Okay, so walang irregular dito sa pag-atras ninyo
04:38dahil sinasabi ng kabilang panig, parang hindi naging patas para madepensahan ni BP Sara Duterte
04:44yung kanyang sarili sa mga inilabas ng ebidensya doon sa naunang mga articles of impeachment.
04:50Hindi ho.
04:51Una-una, procedurally, normal hung ginagawa yan.
04:54Kahit sa mga criminal cases, pwede naman ho talagang mag-atras ng kaso with the permission of the court.
05:02Of course, tulad ng nangyari dito, it was with the permission of the court.
05:06Kahit sa civil cases, pwede din naman mag-atras ng some causes of action.
05:10So alam naman ho yan na possibly naman ho talagang gawin niya.
05:14At yung sinasabi nila na they were not given opportunity to challenge the evidence that we presented,
05:19that's also not accurate.
05:20Maalala natin, dumaan din naman sa cross-examination.
05:25Lahat ng mga testigong inupo namin on the witness stand.
05:30Mayroong instances, mas matagal pa nga ho yung cross-examination kesa sa direct examination.
05:36Pangalawa, nabigyan ho sila ng oportunidad na mag-presenta ng ebidensya nila
05:44paukol sa grave threats and confidential funds.
05:48But they declined to take that opportunity.
05:50Sinasabi nga ho, nung pang-July, upon the recommendation of Senator Bam,
05:56palitan ho yung order of trial after ng prosecution, defense na.
06:01But they declined to do that.
06:03At titignan din natin, maalala natin kahapon,
06:08ang presiding officer, sinabi nga niya,
06:12the sub-judice rule is lifted with respect to the articles that were already dropped.
06:20And this is for the benefit of the respondent.
06:23Kung gusto niyang sumagot, para malaya siya makapagsalita.
06:27Malinaw na para sa respondent yan.
06:29It's not for us.
06:30Dahil nga we dropped this already,
06:32we have no intention of talking about those articles.
06:35Dahil nga gusto namin, let's focus on unexplained wealth.
06:39Pero nakita niya naman, sila mismo yung nag-o-object dito.
06:44Ayaw nilang magsalita.
06:46And I think, we think it's, this is just rhetoric.
06:49This is just posturing.
06:50Para masabi nila, hindi sila makapag-explain dahil may sub-judice rule.
06:55But the truth is, walang paliwanag.
06:57Dahil nga, consistent yan.
06:59Magmula sa simula, wala namang nabigay ng paliwanag, hindi si Presidente.
07:03Sa kanyang answer dito sa impeachment proceedings,
07:06wala siyang nabigay ng detalye.
07:07It's all general delayals.
07:09Pagdating dito sa mga articles lalo, na na-drop na to,
07:13pareho dun sa House of Representatives.
07:15Hindi siya sumipot dito.
07:17So, nung sinabi namin, gusto namin siyang ipa, may intention kaming patawag siya.
07:22They were objecting to it.
07:23So, malinaw, no?
07:24Na talagang, mukhang wala naman silang na-presenta noon.
07:29At mukhang hanggang ngayon, wala silang ma-presenta paukol sa mga articles na yan.
07:34Kung alayon niya ng prosekusyon ay makakawa ng conviction.
07:37Tulad ng binabanggit niyo po, na siya by fit, no?
07:41Na manatili pa sa pwesto.
07:42So, kampante kayo na malakas itong Article 2.
07:46At sa pagbabalik sa November 9,
07:49ang defense na, magharap naman ng ebidensya at mga testigo,
07:53kaugnay nitong Article 2, yung unexplained wealth.
07:55Tama ba?
07:57Tama ako yun, no, Igan.
07:58So, pagdating sa November 9,
08:01dapat ang natitirang article na lang, unexplained wealth.
08:03So, yan na lang ho dapat ang pag-uusapan.
08:06So, dapat ang ebidensya na ilalapag nila dito sa pagdinig na ito,
08:11paukol na lang ho dito sa Article unexplained wealth.
08:13Now, I have to say, at the end of the day,
08:18ang Korte ho ang magde-desisyon kung sapat na ba yung decision
08:21ay yung mga ebidensya na nalapag na namin, no,
08:25to sustain a conviction.
08:26But kami, we are confident with the evidence that we presented
08:30and we're ready to ask the court to render judgment
08:33based on the evidence that we presented
08:35at pati na din kung anumang ebidensyang maipapakita ng depensa.
08:41Maraming salamat, Atty. J. Tolosa,
08:42tagapagsilitan ng Prosecution Panel.
08:44Ingat po kayo.
08:46Maraming salamat din po at maganda umaga ho ulit.
08:48Samantala, inimbitahan din po namin para sa panayam
08:51ang defense team, pero tumanggi po sila.
08:55Tusubukan pa rin po namin ulitin
08:56ang imbitasyon sa ibang mga araw.
09:01J. Tolosa, tagapagsilitan ng Prosecution Panel.

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