00:12but we have to consider all other factors.
00:16Yan ang tinong ni Senate President at Senator Judge Sherwin Gatchalian
00:19kay Anti-Money Laundering Council Executive Director Atty. Ronel Beneventura
00:24sa patuloy na paghisiyasa sa Cala 88 Foods Corporation
00:27na inuugna ay sa asawa ni Vice President Sara Duterte na si Atty. Manazes Manz Carpio.
00:34Napansin ni Gatchalian na hindi nagtutugma ang kapital ng kumpanya
00:37sa halagang pumasok na pera sa Cala 88.
00:40Tinignan ko dito sa iyong report na merong pumasok P776M sa Cala 88 Foods.
00:48May inflow siya na P776M. May outflow siya na P154M.
00:54Ngayon, itong P776M, ilang beses ko na binabalikan yung kanilang available na balance sheet.
01:02Hindi ko makita dito.
01:04Dahil ang kanilang paid-up capital,
01:07yung kanilang capital dito ay 125,000 lang.
01:12Yung cumulative sales nila since 2021 is only 23M.
01:22Ang assets nila 18M.
01:26Ang liabilities is 20M.
01:29So, in your opinion, saan muntay itong P776M na pumasok?
01:40Apologies, Your Honor. I am unable to give my opinion po.
01:43I can only testify on the records and the records will not indicate where it went
01:49except on what is stated po on the records po, Your Honor.
01:52Apologies po, Senate President.
01:54Yung meron rin kanina na pag-usapan rin itong suspicious transactions
02:00at nasabi na merong, there is, isa sa mga dahilan,
02:05there is no underlying legal or trade obligation purpose or economic justification.
02:09Anong ibig sabihin nito?
02:13Suspicious transaction ito ng kali.
02:16I don't want to add po sana ng interpretation po on that.
02:20It's what is indicated in the law po.
02:23There is no underlying legal trade obligation purpose or economic justification.
02:28Kasabay nito, tinanong ni Gatchalian si Beneventura
02:30kung ano ang susunod na proseso kapag natukoy na candidate of money laundering
02:34ang isang transaksyon.
02:36In general po, we have to determine po kung ano po yung unlawful activity
02:40na maaring pinanggalingan po nung peras
02:45or naging transaksyon po doon sa pera.
02:47So, hanapin po namin,
02:49meron ba ito, ano yung,
02:51involved ba ito sa kidnapping for ransom,
02:53involved ba ito sa drug trafficking,
02:55graph and graph.
02:55Dito nyo natitignan yung source nung pera
02:59kung saan siya nanggaling.
03:00Ah, po.
03:02Yung iba po kasi,
03:03covered person po,
03:05they report na po.
03:05So, may starting point po kami kung saan.
03:08Kung wala naman po,
03:09kami po yung maghahanap po nun
03:11kung saan po namin,
03:12kung meron man po.
03:13Ang Kale 88 ay isang kumpanyang gumagawa
03:15at nagbibente ng banana chips.
03:17Batay sa datos ng AMLOC,
03:19umaabot sa 319 million pesos
03:21ang kabuang halaga ng inward remittances
03:23na tatanggap ng Kale 88 mula sa China.
03:26Kabila ang mga transaksyon
03:27mula sa ilang Chinese state-owned companies.
03:29Tinanong naman ni Sen. Josh Rison de Vero sa Beneventura
03:32kung batay sa datos ng AMLOC,
03:34posible bang mas malaki pang halagang natanggap
03:37na remittances ng Kale 88 mula sa China.
03:39Tama po ba na
03:41yung essence nga ng money laundering
03:44ay precisely
03:46gusto pong itago
03:48ang pinanggalingan ng maruming pera?
03:52Tama po, Your Honor.
03:53Kaya po,
03:54tawag po natin doon ay paglalaba.
03:57In Tagalog po,
04:00sa pagkaintindi ko po,
04:02Opo, Your Honor.
04:03Opo.
04:03So, yung P319 million pesos
04:07na remittances mula sa China
04:10ay yung lamang pong inireport
04:12sa AMLOC.
04:14Ibig sabihin,
04:16pwede bang
04:17mas malaki pa
04:19ang pinadalang pera mula sa China
04:21sa mga kumpanya?
04:24Tama po ba yun?
04:27Your Honor,
04:28hindi ko po masabi
04:29pero ang nakita lang po namin
04:31ay kung ano lang po yung nasa records,
04:32Your Honor.
04:36Kung ano yung nasa records
04:38dahil yun ang mga iniulat sa inyo
04:39bilang either suspicious
04:41or covered transaction records.
04:43Kung mayroon pa man po
04:44na wala doon,
04:45hindi po namin makikita po yun.
04:46Ipiniliwanag ni Huntiveros
04:48na mahalagang masuri ang background
04:50at profile
04:50ng mga Chinese state-owned companies
04:52na nakipag-transaksyon
04:53sa KALA88.
04:54Dahil itong
04:55Xinjiang Fruit Industry Group
04:57ay hindi ordinaryong kumpanya.
05:00It's a Chinese state-owned enterprise.
05:04It advances the interests
05:06of the Chinese Communist Party.
05:08Sa mismong corporate governance structure
05:11ng Xinjiang Fruit,
05:13may institutional
05:14Chinese Communist Party organization
05:17na naka-embed.
05:18It has its own
05:19Chinese Communist Party Committee,
05:22Party Committee Organization Department,
05:25at 11 subordinate subcommittees
05:28o party branches.
05:30Lumalabas rin po
05:31na yung chairman
05:32ng Beijing,
05:33Zhenwei Fang,
05:35ay miyembro ng
05:35District Chinese People's
05:37Political Consultative Conference
05:40o CPPCC.
05:41Ayon sa isang
05:43U.S. Economic and Security Report,
05:46delegates to the CPPCC
05:48serve as proxies
05:50for Chinese Communist Party interests,
05:52and they frequently act
05:54as interlocutors
05:55with foreign government officials,
05:58businesses,
05:59and academic institutions.
06:01Sa Canada naman,
06:03sinabi na
06:03the premier overt
06:05United Front Organization
06:07is
06:08the Chinese People's
06:09Political Consultative Conference.
06:12At sa isang report naman
06:13sa Australia,
06:15parte ng
06:16key United Front groups
06:17and events
06:18linked to foreign interference
06:20ang CPPCC
06:22at nilarawan nito
06:23bilang
06:24peak United Front Forum.
06:26So,
06:27ang tanong ko po,
06:27Attorney Buenaventura,
06:29yung mga
06:30ganitong linkages ba
06:31ay tinitignan
06:33ng AMLANC?
06:35Your Honor,
06:36apologies po.
06:39At this point po,
06:40yung na-cover po
06:41nung sopina
06:43is only on the records.
06:44Apologies po,
06:45hindi po makatulong
06:46sa talong po ninyo,
06:48but I am able to answer that po
06:49at this point,
06:50Your Honor.
06:50Bernard Ferrer
06:51para sa bayan.
