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Audio Mixed Bag full of "not enough haters!" Jerry Jones, Ben Johnson, and a tired Joe Burrow gets bullied by Tobin for manifesting!
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00:00How does one feel about the Hornets playing trophy?
00:06That's so embarrassing.
00:08Secondhand embarrassment?
00:10Yeah, I think so.
00:11But that's not a claimable to me.
00:16I don't.
00:17I truthfully, I saw that and I was like, there's no way.
00:19Like, please.
00:20I'm trying to think.
00:21You know what that's equivalent to?
00:23For darkness.
00:26When your little kid plays in a rec league in the summer.
00:31Yep.
00:32And then you go to the awards ceremony and the kid looks at you and say, we only won one
00:37game.
00:37Why do we have to go?
00:38Yeah.
00:39And everybody gets the same size trophy.
00:42They're like, no, no, you like it, Carl.
00:44Everybody gets the same size trophy.
00:47Man, that's tough.
00:48Right.
00:49No, you need.
00:50No, no.
00:52All right.
00:52Let's palate cleanse here.
00:55I would like to know who decided to give him that.
00:58I think it was the coach.
01:00And then force them to post about it.
01:03Right.
01:04Let's get to the mixed bag here on a Friday.
01:17Leroy, are you familiar with?
01:21Jerry Jones.
01:22Yes.
01:24I'm all in.
01:26Ruining his bets, man.
01:28No, that one was actually good.
01:29That was a setup.
01:30I appreciate it.
01:32Let him have his moment.
01:34Come on.
01:34You think you do a show with somebody long enough, you know what the next line is.
01:39I would tell you that too.
01:40But you clearly don't know how to not ruin bets.
01:44This one was okay.
01:46You just haven't been nice to me.
01:47It was something I did.
01:48Because you have not.
01:49You have not been nice to me lately.
01:51What are you talking about?
01:52I think it was not knowing her birthday.
01:55That's true.
01:57You didn't know either.
01:59I don't know my own birthday.
02:00No, he didn't.
02:02Hmm?
02:04Oh, hell.
02:04Yeah.
02:05Oh, is it in March?
02:07Yeah.
02:09April?
02:1017?
02:11All of our birthdays were in January for some reason.
02:15Listen, if you guys have a birthday.
02:17The middle of the year, and December.
02:20If you guys had the same birthday as one of my kids, I would remember it.
02:23That's why I remember Leroy's.
02:24He doesn't know my birthday either.
02:26I appreciate the chat.
02:27They know.
02:30Anyway, you familiar with Jerry Jones?
02:32Yes, I am.
02:34There was a brouhaha between the Cowboys and the Saints.
02:38They were fined $500,000 a piece.
02:41Here's what Jerry Jones had to say.
02:43This game is physical, and it's easy to get involved with aggressive temperaments.
02:48All of that makes it a real focal point of the league to stay within good sport.
02:56The taking of helmets off and swinging and hitting and that type of thing is not good for anybody,
03:01and it's certainly not what we want to represent to our fans as a league or as a team.
03:07And so it's understandable how they're coming down with real severe fines.
03:12Should they find players rather than teams?
03:14Well, that's up to the team to find those players, and so we will find those players.
03:18You could appeal the fine.
03:19Is that something you would consider?
03:21Yes.
03:22Yes, we will appeal, and that's pretty harsh.
03:25I mean, pretty stiff.
03:26Not harsh, but stiff.
03:28Wow.
03:28Wait a minute.
03:29Hold on.
03:30Now, now, now.
03:31Fantastic.
03:32Let me tell you the most important part of this.
03:35You know why Jerry got all that money?
03:38You don't give a what?
03:39By not paying $500,000 fines.
03:41And he has already told you, we're going to appeal, but whatever we're going to get fined,
03:48we're going to turn around and fine players.
03:51Now, when there's a melee, how do you determine who's responsible for what?
03:56I don't know.
03:58That's a good question.
04:00But again, they're not game checks, right?
04:02So like.
04:03They don't even have game checks.
04:05Jeez.
04:05Like, you don't get a game check until you play a damn game.
04:09So here's the kicker behind all of this.
04:13You know why there's fights, right?
04:15It's hot.
04:16Because they can't get penalized and cost them anything during the game.
04:21Like, ain't nobody going to fight like this during the game?
04:24No.
04:25Because they don't want to get, cause their team to get a 15-yard penalty.
04:29But in practice, who cares?
04:32What happens if a guy gets a really bad fine, but he's like an end of the roster guy?
04:36Like, do you owe a bill?
04:38What are you going to find him?
04:38You can only find him what he's making.
04:41I'm just asking.
04:42Like, if you.
04:43If they make three or four grand a week, what are you going to find him?
04:47Find him $100,000.
04:48That's what I'm saying.
04:49You just quit football.
04:51Like, do you owe, like, I guess I owe the Cowboys.
04:54I got to stick around.
04:55I don't know.
04:55But no, because there's a, you can only make, you can only get fined a percentage of what
05:01you make.
05:02So him saying he's going to go try to get $500,000 from players is crazy because whatever
05:08they make in these six or seven weeks of camp is all they can get fined for.
05:14You can't find somebody more than they make.
05:18Like, and it's the young guys that are fighting more than anything.
05:23The old guys don't want to fight.
05:25Joe Burro.
05:27He's tired.
05:28He's tired of waiting.
05:29Here's Joe Burro.
05:30I'm trying to put it out.
05:31I'm trying to put it out into the world.
05:32I'm trying to manifest it.
05:33I'm trying to show our guys the urgency that I have and that I want us to have as an
05:39organization
05:40to go and make it happen.
05:42And, you know, the, you can keep pushing it down the road or you can talk about it now
05:47and say this is the year.
05:48And, you know, I'm tired of saying next year, next year, next year.
05:52This is, this is it.
05:54You know, your life is too short to keep pushing things down the road.
05:59And I'm trying to instill some urgency and some intensity in everybody to go and get, be great every day
06:08and try to go make it happen.
06:10If I may, you're asking a group of men who have not protected you since you got into the league
06:21to now all of a sudden be great?
06:24Like, sometimes it is what it is.
06:28I don't know.
06:29It sounded like he's following the footsteps of Aaron Rodgers to be honest with you.
06:35All that rambling.
06:36I'm manifesting and all this.
06:39Shut up, dude.
06:40Like, you know what?
06:40How about your manifest?
06:41How about your slow ass feet don't get tackled all the time?
06:44How about that?
06:45Dude's got molasses shoes.
06:48Manifesting?
06:48Yeah, I do.
06:49Actually, you want to know something?
06:50Manifest some wins.
06:51I'm tired of his nonsense.
06:53Dude needs more haters.
06:54I'm telling you.
06:56I'm telling you.
06:57This guy is ridiculous.
06:59The things he gets away with saying and that other quarterbacks don't is ridiculous.
07:04I mean, he just gets away scot-free willy-nilly.
07:07I mean, they put him like he – I don't know what it is about Joe Burrow,
07:18but that dude's gotten a lot of passes on a lot of stuff, right?
07:23Yeah.
07:24Like, it's almost like he can do no wrong.
07:26Oh, so sorry, Joe Burrow.
07:28Oh, Burrow.
07:29Oh, sorry, Joe.
07:31You only have the greatest wide receiver tandem in the league for five years.
07:34Oh, poor baby.
07:37Maybe the guy acts like he's sitting out there with the bad news bears.
07:41Yeah, maybe if your ass had a little pocket awareness, you want to get swallowed up every season.
07:46It's hard to have –
07:46Sick of this guy, man.
07:47It's hard to have pocket awareness when your offensive line is that bad.
07:52Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:53Okay.
07:53Yeah, he's the only guy in the history of football with a bad offensive line.
07:55I'm not saying – I'm not saying that.
07:57You know what Patrick Mahomes did with a bad offensive line?
07:59He got to the Super Bowl.
08:00He was getting killed.
08:03Still made it.
08:04I mean, and guess what?
08:06Joe Burrow is above Patrick Mahomes, isn't he?
08:09In what?
08:10In the rankings.
08:12No.
08:13No, no.
08:13They're not that crazy.
08:14Not yet.
08:15I'm telling you.
08:16Not that crazy.
08:17No, nobody can do that.
08:18I'm not allowing that.
08:19I won't allow that.
08:21Whoever made those rankings are banned from rankings.
08:22They get – and they're going to get a play-in net as a celebration.
08:28Right.
08:29Ridiculous.
08:30Oh, I'm trying to manifest it.
08:33Shut up.
08:36Love of him.
08:37I just don't understand why you hate him so much.
08:40Because nobody does.
08:41You want me to tell you why?
08:42There's so many – there's so many –
08:44Here's Tobin Singh.
08:45He has no haters, so he wants to be the first hater to start the trends.
08:50Who are – oh, really?
08:51Name him.
08:51I dare you to name me one Joe Boudreau hater in the national media.
08:56Brendan Tobin.
08:57National media.
08:57I just think people also just don't really talk about him that much.
09:03Exactly.
09:04Exactly.
09:04He just gets to skate by, Brittany.
09:06That's the thing that drives me nuts about him.
09:07And every time he's brought up, it's like, oh, he's like a charity case, like Tiny Tim.
09:11He's a grown-ass man.
09:12Number one overall pick.
09:14Makes a gazillion dollars.
09:17Nobody else – Josh Allen, he has to face the wrath.
09:20Lamar Jackson, he has to face the wrath.
09:21Any other quarterback, Jalen Hurts, he's won Super Bowls, has to face the wrath.
09:26And this Joe Boudreau, I'm going to manifest it.
09:30Manifest?
09:32We manifesting.
09:34Ben Johnson's manifesting.
09:36He's trying to get Caleb Williams' completion percentage better.
09:39It's trending upward, and that's really what we want to see is it continue to get better.
09:45He's taking a lot of pride in where he's putting the ball throughout practice.
09:49Throughout practice.
09:50You see it early on in our warm-up periods to routes on air, and it's translating over to the
09:55team periods as well.
09:56And yet, he still hasn't lost that stinger of being aggressive and trying to push the limits a little bit.
10:02And so, I think that's healthy, particularly in practice, just seeing how tight of windows we can fit these things
10:07into.
10:08Listen, he may be inaccurate, but when it's fourth quarter time, dangerous.
10:15I mean, that guy's good at the comeback, Caleb Williams.
10:19He's got you right where he wants you.
10:21He's like, ah, first three quarters, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
10:24Game time?
10:25Uh-oh.
10:26There he is, locking in.
10:29He doesn't talk about manifesting.
10:31He just goes out there and does it.
10:34He's already got more haters than Joe Burrow.
10:36He's been in the league for two seconds.
10:37Joe Burrow is loved.
10:40I know.
10:41I don't get it.
10:44What's he done?
10:45Wait.
10:47And you give me a hard time by feeling that way about Aaron Rodgers.
10:52I can even understand Aaron Rodgers.
10:54Like, he is super hard.
10:54No, you can't.
10:55You get on me all the time.
10:56No, no, no.
10:57What I get on you at is you denying you hate him.
11:00I don't hate him.
11:01I hate his act.
11:03Like you say, do you hate Joe Burrow?
11:05No, you don't hate Joe Burrow.
11:06I think I'm getting there.
11:08You don't think he has the biggest hate campaign out on Joe Burrow?
11:12I have the only hate campaign out there.
11:14I don't have a hate campaign on Aaron Rodgers.
11:16I wish that you had this kind of energy for Josh Allen, who is the media's darling.
11:22No.
11:23Josh Allen.
11:23Yes, he is.
11:24Josh Allen.
11:25He is.
11:25And he's actually in our division, one of our division rivals, and you never have the
11:30smoke for him.
11:31You never do.
11:32Because I'm telling you.
11:34Hold him accountable.
11:35Is it because he has enough haters?
11:37Is that what's going on?
11:37He has enough haters.
11:38That's what I'm telling you.
11:39He does not have a lot of haters.
11:40You're kidding.
11:41Are you kidding?
11:41Josh Allen doesn't have haters?
11:43Are you crazy?
11:44By the national media?
11:45Wait.
11:46How do you have haters?
11:47They just fired their coach.
11:48You're telling me Josh Allen has more.
11:50You're telling me Joe Boudreau has more haters than Josh Allen?
11:53No way, dude.
11:54I don't think so.
11:55Yes.
11:56This is such a classic move by this show.
11:59Because we're.
11:59What?
12:01What did you say?
12:02No, no, no.
12:02Don't try to wash your hands out of it, Jennifer.
12:05What did you say?
12:05What did you say?
12:06This is such a classic move by this show.
12:08Brittany comes up with a take and then they're all like, yeah, yeah.
12:11What are you talking about?
12:12Josh Allen has no haters?
12:14I'm too afraid because I'm not afraid to speak up.
12:17You can hate Josh Allen, but you'll have more friends.
12:24I'm sitting here alone at the Joe Boudreau hate party.
12:27The sample is different because we live in South Florida where everyone hates Josh Allen
12:32because he plays for the Buffalo Bills.
12:34Right.
12:34Okay.
12:35So our sample size is skewed.
12:37We have a skewed perception of Josh Allen.
12:39But when you listen to the national media, all they do is boohoo and cry about how Josh
12:44Allen has no help and Josh Allen this and he's so talented.
12:47He's the most talented quarterback we've all ever seen.
12:49He's never done anything.
12:50He's never won anything.
12:52At least Joe Burrow made it to a freaking Super Bowl with a terrible offensive line.
12:56Awful offensive line.
12:57But the best receivers ever.
12:58But the best receivers ever.
12:59He doesn't have time to throw the ball.
13:01Who cares who his receiver is?
13:03You bully Josh Allen.
13:04I mean, everybody already has this take.
13:06You know, they already.
13:06I don't care.
13:07I will bully him.
13:08Good.
13:09Good.
13:09That's why this.
13:10What you're doing right now is exactly how Joe Boudreau has gotten away with crimes for
13:14the last five years.
13:17Because everyone's focused on Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
13:21I don't agree.
13:22Now, the Lamar Jackson hate, I think, is unwarranted.
13:26Go right ahead.
13:26He doesn't deserve all that hate.
13:28Neither does Jalen Hurts.
13:29But don't sit here and tell me that Joe Burrow is not more hated than Josh Allen.
13:36Please.
13:36He's definitely not more hated.
13:38Josh Allen has got way more haters than Joe Boudreau.
13:41It's not even close.
13:42Not even close.
13:43He doesn't.
13:44It's not even close.
13:45Are you kidding me?
13:46I don't know.
13:47He's so wrong.
13:48He's so wrong.
13:48It's skewed because we're down here.
13:50Exactly my point.
13:51But the love fest for Josh Allen has never wavered.
14:01But Josh Allen does have bum receivers.
14:04Like, he does have to do everything by himself.
14:06You know?
14:07He does.
14:08And nobody can tackle him and hurt him because he's the size of a moose.
14:13But Joe Burrow.
14:14He can't win playoff games.
14:16That's fair.
14:17That's fair.
14:17Come on.
14:18He's got his own levels.
14:20But the thing is, nobody ever says, when Josh Allen loses, they do blame him.
14:24When Joe Boudreau loses, they're just like, oh, poor Joe Boudreau.
14:28Poor Joe Boudreau.
14:29He can't get over the hump.
14:31Nobody's there to help him.
14:35That's the media.
14:36No, I just want you to have the, if you had the same level of smoke for Josh Allen that
14:42you do for Joe Burrow, I could respect your Joe Burrow take, but you don't.
14:46But it's not the take.
14:47My take is not that Josh Allen doesn't deserve criticism.
14:50My take is that nobody criticizes Joe Boudreau.
14:53Your take is ridiculous that Josh Allen has no critics when he obviously does.
14:57He really doesn't.
14:59By Dolphin fans?
15:00You're silly.
15:00I'm not silly.
15:02You're silly.
15:02Oh, turn on the national media when they speak about him.
15:04When the people in the booth, hello, Tony Romo.
15:07It's a big joke.
15:08Tony Romo doesn't count.
15:09He very clearly is going through some issues.
15:12Of course, and now we're making people off the list.
15:13He's going through issues.
15:15He's got a big issue with Josh Allen.
15:19He loves Josh Allen very, very much, just like Chris Collendorf loves Patrick Mahomes.
15:23Well, listen, he can go see a bunch of his games now.
15:26Also, I do feel like a bit of a loser going at Josh Allen.
15:30He literally owns a piece of the Dolphins.
15:34It's Mark Anthony, the Williams sisters, Fergie, Josh Allen.
15:38Like, they all have a piece of the Dolphins.
15:40He never loses to the Dolphins.
15:42Your hatred should run deep.
15:44It's not about hatred, though.
15:45It's talking about fairness.
15:46And fairness is Joe Burro has been getting away with things scot-free his entire career.
15:53I don't feel like Josh Allen has been getting away from things scot-free.
15:55I agree with you.
15:56He deserves hate.
15:57But I think he has the proper amount.
15:59I think the Dolphins have the right amount of energy.
16:01While this other guy, this thief, is skating by.
16:05Would you feel differently if you were a Cleveland Browns fan?
16:09I don't know.
16:10Oh, my goodness.
16:11Stop.
16:12I can't tell you how.
16:14See what he does?
16:14What am I, a chameleon?
16:16What is this, hypotheticalville?
16:18No, because I'm saying, like, how we feel about Josh Allen is because we're down here in Miami.
16:24Sure.
16:25You would probably feel the same way about Joe Burro if you were in Cleveland.
16:32Wouldn't that, wouldn't your take be opposite because I'm apparently giving more smoke to Joe Burro?
16:39No.
16:40What I'm saying is you're not understanding how much smoke Josh Allen actually gets or doesn't get because you're in
16:47Miami.
16:50All I'm saying is I give the proper amount of smoke to Josh Allen and the proper amount of smoke
16:55to the smokeless Joe Burro.
16:58I give the proper amount of smoke where smoke is due.
17:01No, you don't.
17:02You just give it to Aaron Rodgers.
17:03That's it.
17:03That's literally where all your smoke goes, to Aaron Rodgers.
17:06He's done less with more than anybody.
17:08You can say what you want.
17:10Go look it up.
17:10Still got more hardware than both those bums.
17:12Yeah, but I'm still saying, like, any other quarterback, people would be complaining they only have one.
17:24Facts.
17:25No, not facts.
17:27It is.
17:28He's got four MVPs in the Super Bowl.
17:30These guys couldn't even come close to that.
17:33They said the same thing about Peyton Manning.
17:35He only had one, and then he limped into the second one, and they go, now his career is complete.
17:42Nobody said that.
17:44Everybody knows Peyton Manning is one of the best all time.
17:48El Borre says, do you understand how bad the Bengals organization is?
17:52Oh, enough already.
17:53Pretty bad.
17:54Oh, poor Bengals.
17:56Oh, yeah, they've only had, I mean.
17:58They're notoriously the worst organization in the NFL.
18:01By reputation.
18:02And been to two Super Bowls since the Dolphins won the last one.
18:09So then the Dolphins are worse than them.
18:11So then, like, obviously the organization's not that bad, which means we should stop feeling sorry for grown-ass man
18:17Joe Burro.
18:18That's my entire point.
18:19Thank you for making it.
18:20Josh Allen, Steve Kerr, JJ Reddick live rent-free in Tobin's mind.
18:25Why are you making it Josh Allen?
18:27It's been Joe Burro.
18:28It's Joe Burro.
18:29It's not Josh Allen.
18:32Believe me, he doesn't have the same smell.
18:34Josh Allen has done nothing but take the Dolphins to the woodshed his entire career.
18:40Like, that's so impressive.
18:41We suck.
18:42It is impressive.
18:45We suck.
18:47So now your line is Josh Allen not that great because he can only beat us?
18:53Not that I don't think that he's not great.
18:55I just think that he is the media darling.
18:57And I just don't understand why you choose to have this stance on Joe Burro when Josh Allen is right
19:04there.
19:04He's right there for you.
19:06I think you're crazy on this.
19:07You are feeling more effects of what Josh Allen does than Joe Burro.
19:11No.
19:12Well, because...
19:13What Joe Burro does doesn't affect you.
19:15It does affect me.
19:16He definitely gets more criticism than Joe Burro does.
19:19And any description of the other kind is just incorrect.
19:23Could it be skewed because he's hurt all the time too?
19:26Who?
19:26So he's just not in the...
19:28Yeah, probably.
19:30Yeah, probably.
19:30That's another part of it is Josh Allen's impenetrable.
19:33You can't hurt him.
19:35That is part of it.
19:36And everybody always blames the offensive line even though he's got molasses feet.
19:40Nobody ever calls him porcelain.
19:43I mean, because he's a moose.
19:44He's Gronk at quarterback.
19:46No, you're talking about Josh Allen.
19:47I'm talking about Burro.
19:50Stop mixing up my takes.
19:51You don't even know what my take is now.
19:53He keeps mixing it up.
19:55He keeps messing it up.
19:57Anyway.
19:58You're helping his arguments.
19:59No, I'm not.
20:02You don't even know what side of the take I'm on.
20:05You just want to disagree with me.
20:07Yeah.
20:09Oh, you're wrong, Tobin.
20:11You're wrong.
20:12No.