00:00John Malkovich, can you just talk a little bit about what that scene was like?
00:05Yeah, I mean, we were trying to sort of set up the history of the Fantastic Four.
00:09You know, it's the fourth anniversary of their becoming the Fantastic Four.
00:12We needed the movie to feel lived in.
00:14We wanted to understand the relationships, but we didn't want to do the origin story.
00:18We wanted to kind of, you know, quickly give everybody the information that they needed to know.
00:22And so we had them, you know, meeting up with adversaries like Mole Man and others
00:27that are drawn from the comics, especially the early 60s Kirby and Lee initial run.
00:32And Red Ghost is one of those great classic villains of theirs
00:36and is also great for the time because this is very much set in the space race
00:40and informed by JFK and optimism and the Apollo 11
00:43and the idea that we can, you know, we can do anything and conquer the unknown.
00:47And so having an adversary who was similarly informed by the space race made a lot of sense.
00:52But we had so much stuff that we had to establish and juggle
00:56that ultimately, unfortunately, we just didn't have the landscape for that.
01:00But it was a great sequence of him trying to steal the Excelsior
01:03and read Battling Super Apes.
01:04And there are little clips of it within the film that you get to see
01:07both up front and also even in the titles at the end.
01:11He's such a gentleman and, you know, his work in it was incredible.
01:15And I wish he were still in the movie, but it's just the, you know,
01:17unfortunate pressurize of storytelling.
01:19We'll see you then.
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