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मुंबई, महाराष्ट्र: सिंगर और डायरेक्टर अमाल मलिक ने अपनी सिंगिग जर्नी और 'ये आवारापन' गाने के बारे में IANS से खास बातचीत की। इस दौरान उन्होंने म्यूजिक इंडस्ट्री के कई मुद्दों पर अपनी राय रखी। साथ ही उन्होंने बताया कि कल्ट-क्लासिक फिल्म 'आवारापन' के सीक्वल के लिए गाना तैयार करना उनके लिए कितना बड़ा चैलेंज था। अमाल ने इस बात का भी जिक्र किया कि इमरान हाशमी जैसे कलाकार के लिए गाने की भावनाओं और उम्मीदों पर खरा उतरने का दबाव कैसा था। बातचीत के दौरान अमाल मलिक ने गाने की खास टेक्सचर, उसकी फील और म्यूजिक के पीछे की सोच को विस्तार से समझाया। इसके साथ ही उन्होंने म्यूजिक इंडस्ट्री में रॉयल्टी सिस्टम, कलाकारों की कमाई और रेवेन्यू मॉडल को लेकर भी अपनी राय साझा की। वहीं, उन्होंने बॉलीवुड में रॉक म्यूजिक की वापसी और इस जॉनर को मिल रहे नए मौके पर भी बात की। आखिर में उन्होंने अपने फैंस से मिले प्यार और सपोर्ट के लिए धन्यवाद भी किया।


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00:00Hello Amal, welcome to INES and congratulations for here, Avarapan.
00:04As much as the film is iconic, the sequel, I believe, turned out to be a huge, massive hit.
00:12Composing a song for an iconic character like Shivam Pandit, did you feel the pressure at any point?
00:19Obviously, it was a big film.
00:21It was a big film, obviously. It was released in 2006-2007.
00:29I was 16-17 years old.
00:31I never thought that I would be making music for the part 2.
00:36Obviously, there is a sequel in every department.
00:41But I also had to go beyond musically,
00:44because I had both iconic songs with Imran Aashmi.
00:49So, in the third time, we had to come with the best.
00:52And I have done my best.
00:53The rest of the people are already telling me that the song is getting insane love.
00:57So, very happy.
00:58Okay. And moving forward,
01:00how will this song, where will you place the song in his emotional journey as the character?
01:06I think, this song was made with the feeling of the character of Awarapan 1.
01:18I saw that picture.
01:20I saw it 3-4 times in the theatre.
01:22Later, I saw it on the TV.
01:24I saw it on the stream.
01:26I saw it on the stream.
01:27So, sometimes, when you relate to this character,
01:30the music is also made in mind.
01:33Obviously, with little tweaking to this story.
01:36But I would say, this song,
01:38it is a tribute to something like Atophe Rao and Tera Mera Rishtha,
01:43which is in the first part.
01:45They both have kept this character for 20 years.
01:49And I hope I can take that forward.
01:52And what is this song?
01:53It's like an issue of old Shivam and new Shivam.
01:57It is the mixing and the meeting of Awarapan 1 and 2.
02:01And I also have a relatability.
02:05The melody is simple.
02:07The thing is very strong.
02:09And it defines everyone's life.
02:12Everyone has seen Awarapan's journey on their own.
02:15They also have seen themselves in their own life.
02:17So, those who have lived their lives,
02:18they relate to this song.
02:21And if I talk about Awarapan words,
02:24Beyond the face value,
02:25there is also an emotion,
02:28in that phrase or word.
02:30Why do you use this for the forefront?
02:32Do you use sound textures?
02:33Do you use instrumentation?
02:34Do you use layering?
02:35So, first of all,
02:37when the word is so strong,
02:40Awarapan,
02:41you can't define one thing.
02:43You know, Awarapan in this song,
02:46there is also a pleasure.
02:50There is also a realization.
02:52There is also a introspection.
02:53There is also a feeling.
02:55It's also a feeling.
02:57It's always like a friend to listen to your own story.
03:00There is also a way to sing.
03:01You know,
03:03You are sitting with someone,
03:04you say,
03:04My life has been destroyed.
03:06When my heart is destroyed,
03:09my life has been destroyed.
03:10It sounds like you are narrating your story.
03:14So,
03:15the lyrics are very conversational,
03:16but deep.
03:17They are saying the big things
03:18in a simple, subtle way.
03:21And when the melody is so simple,
03:23heartfelt and pure,
03:25I wanted to add a lot of arrangement
03:27and heaviness to it.
03:30Obviously, there is,
03:31it is a balance of cinematic music with rock,
03:36with little orchestral.
03:37Everything is a good balance.
03:39And Bollywood being the center.
03:41There is also a Bollywood-ness.
03:43There is also a filminess.
03:44There is also a big song.
03:47There is also a big song.
03:48There is also a big song.
03:49But,
03:50we have not tried to do a show off.
03:52There is no effort,
03:53that we will show something.
03:56In the song,
03:57there is a lot of sincerity and simplicity.
04:00Soundscape-wise,
04:01guitars, drums,
04:02and bass are also a rock-based album.
04:06And,
04:07there is also a space.
04:09There is also a lot of textures.
04:11But,
04:12to breathe the melody,
04:14and to keep the lyrics simple and heartfelt,
04:17is a very important thing.
04:19In the songs,
04:20if you have to relate to these songs,
04:24you know,
04:25there is not a lot of love.
04:27It has to be pure.
04:29And you said,
04:30there is a lot of depth in the songs,
04:32in the poetry.
04:33Because,
04:33you have to relate to each person,
04:36the melody,
04:37the music.
04:38It is a herculean task.
04:39Yes.
04:40To love each person,
04:40it is next to impossible.
04:42What was going on in your mind,
04:45that these are the touch points.
04:47I have to reach the last emotion,
04:49the last mile emotion.
04:50What was it in your mind?
04:51So,
04:51you can see,
04:52in the songs,
04:53the melody rises,
04:54is a graph.
04:56At the end,
04:56one line says,
04:58leave my life,
04:59leave my life.
05:00It is finished.
05:01Until the song reaches,
05:02the song reaches,
05:03so,
05:04the arrangement is slowly,
05:05slowly,
05:05two instruments,
05:06four instruments,
05:07five,
05:07six,
05:08seven,
05:08and all the instruments are open.
05:11So,
05:12there is a lot of depth in the song.
05:16And,
05:16I was just going to make it.
05:19A good singer,
05:20obviously,
05:20Arijit came and sang it so well.
05:23A good writer,
05:24like Virag Mishraji,
05:25Rashmi and Virag.
05:27And,
05:29many musicians,
05:30my team,
05:31who have worked on this song,
05:33there are all credits,
05:34everyone,
05:36one of my briefs was,
05:38let's not adulterate the song.
05:41What is the need for it,
05:43it doesn't do it.
05:44It is the need for the song.
05:46it is the need for it.
05:48And,
05:48I think,
05:48for my success,
05:51this is a very simple thing that I followed,
05:53that,
05:55as an artist,
05:57we sometimes,
05:57over excel,
05:58over do,
05:58over perfection,
05:59we lose the song.
06:01So,
06:02sometimes,
06:03there is a switch in mind,
06:04and in soul,
06:05that I'm saying,
06:06just now,
06:06here,
06:07it's right.
06:09So,
06:09there are,
06:10if you may understand,
06:12that,
06:14the note is,
06:15this,
06:16if there is no longer,
06:19that,
06:19if there is no longer,
06:22that,
06:22no longer,
06:24that,
06:27there is a song,
06:29which is a song,
06:31which is a song,
06:32that is not a song.
06:34So,
06:35when you take care of this song,
06:37and it is true,
06:39that,
06:40that is a song.
06:40that is important.
06:42So,
06:42So, this is the same route, but there is a new regret, today's understanding of a musician.
06:53If I do one or two, then what would I do?
06:57This is the song.
06:58I never thought that there is a good sequel, so we have to beat someone.
07:03Obviously, it's going to be a long time.
07:05For 20 years, people who are listening to music will have a comparison.
07:08But I think that's what I did.
07:14I will talk about the first part.
07:17It was not a commercial success in that sense, but it became a cult later on.
07:21Like one of the biggest cults of Hindi cinema.
07:23I've always had a song that you have made your own knowledge.
07:28But over the years, it became a cult.
07:32And how do you pacify yourself, or how do you make peace with it?
07:36That is the song that you have made, but it is today.
07:40I think it's a timeline of every song, and a fate of the mood, and energy of the people.
07:48And the people who make it.
07:48If there are good energies, they play songs.
07:52Sometimes the songs are very good, but it depends on the film.
07:55And the people who are watching the music.
07:58They play songs.
08:01They play songs.
08:02It does matter.
08:02And the people who are watching it even though.
08:03They are getting the right.
08:08So today is not a time that you can make a good song.
08:11And it will make it look.
08:13So, it will be a short time.
08:16It will be a short time, but if you have instant gratification.
08:18inha kul 100 million
08:19ہو جائے 500,000 reels
08:21بن جائے
08:21یہ ہر گانے کے ساتھ
08:23نہیں ہو سکتا
08:23کچھ گانے reels
08:24پہ چلتے ہیں
08:25کچھ گانے streaming
08:26پہ کلتے ہیں
08:26کچھ سب کے
08:28rules کے خلاف
08:29ایسی ہی چل جاتے ہیں
08:31but
08:31ان سب
08:32ان کو ایک
08:33positioning دینی پڑتی ہے
08:34audience کے پاس
08:35اتنا content ہے
08:36دیکھنے کے لئے
08:37کہ how do you
08:38break through that
08:38with honesty
08:40میں کرتا ہوں
08:40ہر بار
08:41اور میں
08:42میں نے کوئی
08:42funda نہیں
08:43apply کیا
08:43so کبھی کبھی
08:45کانے walkout ہوتے
08:46کبھی نہیں ہوتے
08:46اور وہ
08:47میں دو دن تک
08:48بورا مانتا ہوں
08:48کہ چلا نہیں ہوا
08:50چلو ٹھیک ہے
08:51آرے یہ
08:52آپ ڈھونڈتے رہتے ہو
08:53پھر
08:53کہ اچھا شاید
08:54اس واجہ سے
08:55یا اس واجہ سے
08:56بہت زیادہ سوچ
08:57کہ آپ time waste
08:58بھی
08:58I move to the next song
09:00کہ چلو اچھے
09:00یہ نہیں وہ next
09:01بنا لیتا ہوں
09:02میں ایک اور
09:02you don't overthink
09:03no because
09:04I realize
09:04کہ میرے سے
09:05بڑے factors
09:06ایک گانے کو
09:06چلنے میں
09:07جب میرا music video
09:08میرے چہرے پہ
09:09آکے اگر نہیں چلتا
09:10تو
09:10then I get into
09:11an understanding
09:12کہ اچھا شاید
09:12میں زیادہ سوچوں گا
09:14پھر
09:14میں دس پندرہ دن
09:15لے کے
09:16سوچتا ہوں
09:16کہ اچھا شاید
09:17sound کچھ زیادہ
09:18ہی نیا کر دیا
09:18ہے کچھ
09:19الگ ہی experimental
09:20ہو گیا
09:20شاید یہ
09:21نہیں سننا چاہتے
09:22لوگ
09:23یا
09:23یہ اب ہی کا نہیں
09:25دو سال آگے
09:25کا گانہ تھا
09:26تو ایسی بہت بات
09:27starting میں بھی
09:28میرے کریئر میں
09:29میں نے جب
09:29سورج ڈوبای کی
09:30اس سے پہلے
09:30جے ہو کی تھی
09:31اس میں بھی
09:31وہ ہی
09:32sound scape تھا
09:32electronic
09:33but وہ
09:34تب نہیں چلا
09:34دو سال بات چلا
09:35یا نو مہینے
09:37بعد چلا
09:37تو times
09:38keep changing
09:39آج کیا
09:40ہر دو ہفتے
09:41کچھ نیا
09:41song آ سکتا ہے
09:42independent side
09:43پہ which can
09:44become bigger
09:45than a film song
09:46also today
09:47اور میں
09:48میں نے کبھی کبھی
09:49دیکھا ہے
09:50کہ میرے جو گانے
09:50جیسے
09:51جان ہے میری
09:52رادے شام سے
09:52یا تیرے میرے
09:54کر کے
09:54گانا فرم شیف
09:55وہ اس پیریڈ
09:56تین مہینے
09:57جب
09:57فلم پرموٹ
09:58ہو رہی تھی
09:58یا مارکٹ
09:58ہو رہی تھی
09:59بلکل نہیں چلے
10:00لوگوں نے
10:01اس طریقے سے
10:01اس کو پیار نہیں دیا
10:02اب اس کے
10:03نمبرز دیکھ لو
10:04ان کے
10:04ویوز دیکھ لو
10:05لو
10:06کاللجز
10:07کانسرٹ
10:08ہر جگہ
10:08ریکویسٹ بھی کرتے
10:09تو میں بھی
10:09سوچتا ہوں
10:10سیڑ یہ تو
10:11یہ تو لوگوں نے
10:12سونا ہے
10:12میں نے خود
10:13نہیں پتا
10:13ریوزٹ کیا
10:14کبھی اپنے
10:15پلیلسٹ میں
10:15آئیڈ ہی نہیں
10:16کیونکہ
10:16فلوپ ہے
10:16کہ ہم نے
10:17بلنا چھوڑو
10:18اس کو ہٹا
10:18یہ تو چلتا
10:19ہی نہیں
10:19کون گائے گا
10:20اور پھر آپ
10:21دیکھتے ہو
10:21کبھی کبھی
10:21کہ اچھا
10:22پیانو سیٹ پہ
10:23ابھی ریسنٹلی
10:23رہوزن گوہاتی
10:25اور میں پرفارم
10:26کر رہا تھا
10:26یہ گانا
10:26وچھوز
10:28لبو پہ
10:29نام ہے تیرا
10:39یہ تب نہیں
10:41چلا تھا
10:41رادے شام سے
10:42اور جو بھی
10:43فیکٹرز ہو
10:43وہ میں بھی
10:44ڈیفائن نہیں
10:45کر سکتا
10:45کیونکہ
10:46کبھی کبھی
10:47اتنے بڑا
10:48سٹار ہے پرباس
10:49پوجہ ہگڑے
10:50ہے فلم
10:50ساؤت
10:51چار لائنگویجز
10:52کی بڑی پکچر
10:53ہے
10:53مارکٹنگ میں
10:54کوئی کمی نہیں
10:55تھی
10:55پر کچھ ہوتا ہے
10:56جب شاید
10:57اس ٹائم پہ
10:58ان نوٹس چلا گیا
10:59بڑ میں نے ایسا
11:00کوئی کام نہیں
11:01کیا ہے گانے میں
11:02یعنی
11:02میکسیم میرے
11:03ایک سو چالیس
11:04گانے جتنے بھی
11:05رہے کر رہے ہیں
11:05دو تین ایسے
11:06ہو سکتے جو
11:06میں نے شاید
11:07خود اتنا
11:08محنت نہیں کیا
11:08ہو جاتی ہے
11:09ایسی باتیں بھی
11:10انسان ہوں
11:11اے آئی نہیں ہوں
11:12تو دین
11:13دیرہ ٹائمز
11:14کی آپ کو لگتا ہے
11:14چلو یہ تو
11:15میں نے ایفورٹ کیا
11:16نہیں تھا
11:16یہ تو ہونا ہی تھا
11:17پڑ بڑے بڑے
11:18اچھے گانے
11:19جب آپ کے
11:19آرٹس کے دل
11:20کے کلوزتے
11:21جب نہیں جلتے
11:21آپ کو تھوڑا
11:22بہت دھکا لگتا
11:23بڑا لگتا
11:23بڑا لگتا
11:23بڑا لگتا
11:24بڑا لگتا
11:24ایڈونٹ
11:24اوور تنگ
11:25کہ اچھے
11:25یہ نہیں چلتا
11:26اچھے
11:26کبھی ایسا
11:27کچھ چلے گا
11:27نہیں
11:28وہ واپس
11:29ٹرائے کرنا چاہئے
11:30اچھی
11:31میلوڈی
11:31اچھی لیرکس
11:32ڈیسنٹ ساونڈ کے ساتھ
11:33ہمیشہ چلتے
11:34آپ کو ہر بار
11:36یہ وہ ہے
11:37کہ آپ دیکھو
11:38کہ کتنے لوگ
11:38انہیں پانچ ہزار
11:40گانے بنایا ہوں گے
11:41پر چلے
11:42صرف ہزار انمس
11:43یا پانچ سو گانے
11:44بنایا جس میں سے
11:45ہنڈرڈ ہٹس ہے
11:45چار سو فلوپ ہے
11:46پر اس کا مطلب نہیں
11:48کہ انہوں نے
11:48وہ چار سو بنائی نہیں
11:50تو آپ کو
11:51آپ کا ایوریج میں سے
11:52دس ہی چلیں
11:53دس ہی بیس ہی
11:54امورٹل گانے ہوتے
11:55زندگی میں
11:56کسی ایک آٹسٹ کے
11:57اور دس بیس ہونا
11:58بھی بڑی بات ہے
11:59کچھ کچھ لوگ
12:00ایک گانے سے ہی
12:00جانے جاتے ہیں
12:01I'm happy that
12:02میرے لائف میں
12:03for me
12:05سورج ڈوبا ہے
12:06روکے نہ روکے ہے
12:07کون تجھے ہے
12:08بول دو نظرہ ہے
12:09جب تک ہے
12:10کتنے ایسے گانے ہیں
12:11جو میں بھول جاتے
12:13تو لوگ یاد دلاتے ہیں
12:14So I think
12:14success ہمارے لئے
12:16numbered ہے
12:16ہم دیکھتے رہتے ہیں
12:18اچھے
12:18ترینڈنگ میں ہے کی نہیں
12:19یہ ہوا کی نہیں
12:20اس پوزیشن پہ پہنچا کی نہیں
12:22بینر ملا کی نہیں
12:24پبلک کے لئے
12:25وہ گانا لگ ہے
12:26پبلک کے لئے
12:27یعنی
12:28ان کو چھو گیا
12:29تو چھو گیا
12:29اور وہ
12:30ایک چین بنتی ہے
12:32ایک آدم
12:32جیسے آپ کو
12:33آج میں نے
12:33اگر گانا سنا
12:34آپ کو پسند
12:34آپ نے
12:35آپ کے دوست کو سنا
12:36اس نے کسی اور کو سنا
12:37تو دھیرے دھیرے دھیرے
12:39اچھا گانا
12:39اپنی جاگہ ڈونڈتا ہے
12:40Absolutely
12:41And you mentioned AI
12:42now
12:43offlet I have noticed
12:44this practice in the industry
12:45you guide me through it
12:46if I have seen it wrong
12:48scratch singers
12:49generally composers
12:50they are not going for them
12:51rather they are using AI
12:54mainly for one reason
12:55کہ اگر کوئی بڑا سنگر
12:55بولاتے ہیں
12:56on board
12:57scratch کے لئے
12:57اور اگر وہ سنگر
12:58producer
12:59اگر اکے نہیں کرتے ہیں
13:00تو
13:01then they
13:01don't have the face
13:02to tell
13:03a senior singer
13:03کہ نہیں
13:04ہوا ہے
13:04it becomes a very
13:05tricky situation
13:06for them
13:07اس چیز میں
13:08but
13:08کیونکہ دوداری
13:09تلوار ہے
13:09it's also
13:11robbing the industry
13:11of a genuine talent
13:12کیونکہ
13:13اگر اریجید
13:14سنگھ کی بات کریں
13:16موسیلی
13:16کیونکہ
13:17تم ہی ہو کے
13:17پہلے بھی
13:17انہیں کئی سارے
13:18کافی
13:18scratch گائے ہیں
13:19بارفی کی
13:20گزل گائی
13:20انہیں
13:22برکوز
13:22he sang scratch
13:24for over
13:24so many years
13:25that's how
13:25he became
13:26well known
13:26in the industry
13:27do you think
13:28یہ
13:28کہیں
13:29کئی نا کئی
13:29industry
13:29کو
13:30affect کر رہا ہے
13:30AI
13:31negatively
13:31دونوں
13:32things
13:32کو
13:33آپ
13:33الگ
13:33طریق سے
13:34دیکھ سکتے
13:34دو طریقے سے
13:35see
13:35I use AI
13:36to check
13:37if the mixing
13:38can be improved
13:39کچھ
13:40sounds کے
13:40better
13:41ہو سکتا
13:41ہے
13:41ایک
13:42آپ کو
13:42ایک
13:43understanding
13:43you can
13:44write
13:44something
13:45a prompt
13:45and
13:45ایک
13:46ballad
13:47کو
13:47آپ
13:47الگ
13:48طریقے سے
13:48کو
13:49الگ
13:49بیٹس
13:49بنا کے
13:50software
13:50آپ کو
13:50دے
13:50سکتا
13:51ہے
13:52but
13:53newer
13:53لوگ
13:54کے لئے
13:54it
13:54is
13:55nice
13:55کیونکہ
13:55جب
13:56وہ
13:56ایک
13:56بڑے
13:56artist
13:56کو
13:57اپروچ
14:03ہی
14:04use AI
14:04voices
14:05to
14:05you
14:05know
14:05a
14:06presentable
14:06scratch
14:07بن
14:07جائے
14:07کہ
14:07ہم
14:08present
14:08ہی
14:08کیا
14:08کرے
14:09اگر
14:09خود
14:09نہیں
14:09گا
14:09سکتے
14:10آپ
14:10گیٹار
14:10پہ
14:10پہ
14:10پہ
14:11پہ
14:11پہ
14:11تو
14:11label
14:11head
14:12یا
14:12music
14:12supervisor
14:13کیسے
14:13سمجھے
14:14گا
14:14یا
14:14ڈیریکٹر
14:15بھی
14:16سب
14:16کئی
14:17نا کئی
14:17جو
14:18لوگ
14:18لکھ سکتے
14:19ہیں
14:19انکو
14:20کمپوز
14:20نہیں
14:20آتا
14:21تو
14:21کمپوز
14:21کمپوز
14:21کاری
14:22دیتا
14:22جن
14:22کو
14:22کمپوز
14:23ہی
14:23آتا
14:23سنگی
14:23ہی
14:24نیا
14:24تا
14:24سب
14:25کی
14:25it
14:25makes
14:26the
14:26job
14:26کوئی
14:26کر
14:28فائنل
14:28میں
14:28یعنی
14:29وہ
14:29ایک
14:29یومن
14:30element
14:30کو
14:30لانہ
14:31ہی
14:31پڑتا
14:31ہے
14:31یعنی
14:32وہ
14:32وہ
14:33تک
14:33تو
14:33بات
14:33نہیں
14:34پہنچے
14:34کہ
14:34وہ
14:34پورے
14:35emotion
14:35کو
14:35سمجھ
14:36سکتا
14:36ہے
14:36سمویر
14:37یہ
14:37is
14:37good
14:38کی
14:38یعنی
14:38میں
14:39بہت
14:40بار
14:40سنگرز
14:40کے
14:41ساتھ
14:41کام
14:41جب
14:41کیا
14:41میں
14:42ان کے
14:42ساتھ
14:42clarity
14:42رکھی
14:43ہے
14:43کہ
14:43شاید
14:44یہ آواز
14:45نہیں
14:45جائے گی
14:46پر میں
14:46نے کبھی
14:46ایسا
14:47نہیں
14:47کیا
14:47کہ
14:48سونو
14:48نگم
14:48کو
14:49بھی
14:49گوا
14:49دیا
14:50آریجیت
14:50سنگھ
14:51کو
14:51بھی
14:51گوا
14:51دیا
14:51کے
14:52کے
14:52کو
14:52بھی
14:52بھی
14:52بھولا
14:53اب
14:53چونے
14:54گے
14:54میں
14:55بہت
14:55شہر
14:56رہ
14:56چکا
14:56ہوں
14:56میرے
14:57من
14:57میں
14:57جو
14:58اے
14:58آئی
14:58جانتا
14:58ہے
14:59کون
14:59سے
14:59سنگر
15:00کا
15:00گانا
15:01ہے
15:01تو
15:02جب
15:02کے
15:02کے
15:02کے
15:02گانا
15:03رہا ہے
15:03کے
15:03کے
15:04سونو
15:04نگم
15:05کا
15:05گانا
15:05سونو
15:05نگم
15:06کا
15:06ملا
15:06ارمان
15:07اور
15:07اریجیت
15:07میں
15:07ایک
15:08ریلیشنشپ
15:08ہے
15:08میں
15:09دونوں
15:09کو
15:09ہمیشہ
15:10کہتا
15:10ہوں
15:10کہ
15:10بھائی
15:10یہ گانا
15:11ارمان
15:11بھی
15:11گائے
15:11گا
15:11شاید
15:12and
15:12i
15:13want
15:13you
15:13also
15:13to
15:13try
15:13and
15:14let's
15:14see
15:14who
15:14does
15:14the
15:14best
15:15job
15:16تو
15:16وہ
15:16ریلیشنشپ
15:17پہ بھی
15:17ہوتا ہے
15:18اور
15:18ارمان
15:19کے لئے
15:19بھی
15:19جیسے
15:19اریجیت
15:20نے
15:20اتنے
15:21ڈیموز
15:21گا گا
15:21کہ
15:21اریجیت
15:22سنگ
15:22بنا
15:22ارمان
15:23نے
15:23بہت
15:24ریکارڈنگ
15:24میں
15:24اسیسٹ
15:25کر کے
15:41بھائی
15:42یہ
15:42ہے
15:43بہت
15:43بہت
15:44ایوز
15:45ایوز
15:45ایوز
15:46دن
15:46ہوت
15:47ایوز
15:47وہ
15:47سینئر
15:48کیو
15:48ہو
15:48نیا
15:49ہو
15:49کوئی
15:49بھی
15:50ہو
15:50آپ
15:50کسی
15:51کو
15:51اور
15:51یا تو
15:51آپ
15:52دم
15:52رکھو
15:52جیسے
15:53میں
15:53بولتا
15:53clarity
15:54سے
15:54کی
15:55بھائی
15:55you're
15:56new
15:56and
15:57we
15:57are
15:57trying
15:58your
15:58وویس
15:58اور
15:59میں
15:59کسی
15:59سینئر
16:00کو
16:00تو
16:00بھولاتا
16:01ہی
16:01نہیں
16:01گانا
16:01گانے
16:02کے لئے
16:02جب
16:02تک
16:02میں
16:02خود
16:03شور
16:03نہیں
16:03ہوں
16:03so
16:04i
16:04keep
16:04it
16:04very
16:04clear
16:05میں
16:05پروڈیوسر
16:05سے
16:05پہلی
16:06بات
16:06کر
16:06کے
16:06رکھتا
16:07ہو
16:07کہ
16:07بھائی
16:07یہ
16:07میرا
16:08ویشن
16:08ہے
16:09ایک
16:10بار
16:10اگر
16:10یہ
16:10گائیں
16:10گے
16:11تو
16:12میرا
16:12کام
16:12ہے
16:13سینگر
16:13سے
16:13بیس
16:13نکل
16:14وانا
16:15تو
16:19اگر
16:20اگر
16:20آپ
16:20اوڈیشن
16:21کر
16:34سنائی
16:34دے سکتا
16:35software
16:35گی
16:36تھروں
16:36کی
16:36ایسا
16:36کچھ
16:37لگے
16:37گا
16:37بڈ
16:38آپ
16:38کو
16:38بھی
16:39نہیں
16:39پتا
16:39سنگر
16:39کے
16:39studio
16:40میں
16:40کیا
16:40magic
16:40کر
16:41سکتا
16:41absolutely
16:41so
16:42that
16:42human
16:42element
16:43is
16:43not
16:44going
16:44to
16:44be
16:44killed
16:45easily
16:45i
16:45think
16:46future
16:46میں
16:46بہت
16:47سارے
16:47گانے
16:47AI
16:47بھی
16:48ہوں گے
16:48بہت
16:48سارے
16:48human
16:49گانے
16:49بھی
16:49ہوں گے
16:50بڈ
16:51جس
17:01اور جو
17:01ایک
17:01انسان
17:02خود
17:02بجاتا
17:02ہے
17:02اس میں
17:03جو
17:03کمیا ہے
17:04جو
17:04کھامیا ہے
17:05اس میں
17:05بھی
17:05magic
17:05a
17:06human
17:07being
17:07coming
17:07into
17:08a
17:08room
17:08and
17:08playing
17:08a
17:08violin
17:09he's
17:09putting
17:10his
17:10heart
17:10and
17:10soul
17:11وہ
17:12گانے
17:12میں
17:12جلگتا
17:13ہے
17:13keyboard
17:14software
17:14سے
17:15ہمیشہ
17:15آپ کو
17:15نہیں
17:15you'll
17:16not
17:16be able
17:16to
17:16touch
17:17that
17:17part
17:17of
17:18the
17:18soul
17:19and
17:20you
17:20said
17:20in
17:20one
17:20of
17:20the
17:20previous
17:21answers
17:21that
17:22india
17:22کیونکہ
17:23a
17:23visual
17:23medium
17:23بھی
17:23ہے
17:24music
17:24has
17:24to
17:24work
17:24a
17:25certain
17:25way
17:25a
17:26few
17:26times
17:26i
17:51so
17:52and
17:52so
17:52label
17:52artist
17:53or
17:54production
17:54house
17:55no one
17:58exactly
17:58knows
17:59what
17:59is
18:00what
18:01I
18:04will
18:04get
18:05as
18:05a
18:06deal
18:06maybe
18:06Abhijit
18:06will
18:07not
18:07get
18:07what
18:07he
18:08gets
18:08someone
18:08new
18:08will
18:09not
18:09get
18:09so
18:10I
18:10think
18:10a
18:12decision
18:13making
18:14obviously
18:14ہمارے
18:15country
18:15laws
18:16improve
18:16ہوئے
18:17ہیں
18:17but
18:18master
18:18share
18:19royalty
18:20production
18:21house
18:21a
18:21label
18:22ki
18:22rathi
18:23artists
18:24have
18:24not
18:24gotten
18:25that
18:25somewhere
18:26on
18:26the
18:26south
18:26side
18:27of
18:27films
18:28south
18:28industry
18:28mei
18:29kai
18:29na
18:29kai
18:29woh
18:29share
18:29ho
18:30te
18:30bade
18:30artist
18:30se
18:31par
18:31kai
18:32na
18:32kai
18:33woh
18:33balance
18:33bhi
18:33ho
18:33take
18:33kai
18:34up
18:34front
18:34fees
18:34le
18:35lete
18:35hai
18:35ya
18:36to
18:36koi
18:36nahi
18:37le
18:37te
18:37or
18:37phil
18:49bol
18:49kai
19:18kai
19:19But it is a slow process here. It is not fully wrong, but it is not fully right also.
19:25There are no clarities in 100% royalties.
19:30We don't get radio royalties until now.
19:33We don't know exactly how much royalties are getting from streaming.
19:36Every artist gets into account of his catalogue.
19:50In the film industry, it is difficult to ask for your masters.
19:56There are almost crores of a song.
20:00There are actors and producers.
20:04There are many producers, such as if there is a film called Dilwale.
20:08In the film of Shaarukh Khan and Sony Music, he has the ownership of the song.
20:12He doesn't have the ownership of Pritam Daga.
20:14It will be his moral right.
20:16In his life, if the album comes back or recreates,
20:19then Pritam's name will be linked to that album.
20:22This is the most important right of the artist.
20:24You can't remove his credit.
20:26But it is basic.
20:27I think tomorrow,
20:28there are many artists who have come and come and run in a short period.
20:37And they have only three good songs.
20:39And they have only three great songs.
20:40And they have only three great songs.
20:41So, do they not get the right to survive off those three songs?
20:45You have to ask this question.
20:46Absolutely.
20:47If you talk about livelihood,
20:49it is difficult to survive within the current royalty structure.
20:53But then you have to fight for it.
20:55Abhijit is fighting somewhere.
20:56I am.
20:57But not everyone is.
20:58So, when unity comes,
21:00it will be there.
21:01And lastly, two questions.
21:02I observed artists majorly in two ways.
21:05One is people pleasers.
21:06And the other is who are fearless.
21:08In the way they speak or they deal with people.
21:11As an artist,
21:12how do you balance these two opposite ends?
21:13I think I am only fearless.
21:15I have not balanced anything.
21:17In my life,
21:19there is no fun.
21:22Look,
21:23I don't want to be fearless for this show.
21:25I will say it.
21:26I will say it.
21:26There will be a headline.
21:28There will be a trend.
21:29There will be a trend.
21:29There is no such thing.
21:31There is no such thing.
21:31A feeling is that
21:33I have been the youngest musician of this era.
21:36When I was a debut.
21:37No one was my age.
21:38I was 23.
21:40And in the past seven or eight years,
21:42everyone has worked well.
21:43I have worked well.
21:44But in my genre,
21:45which is pure,
21:46heartfelt,
21:47romantic music,
21:48I feel that I have worked well.
21:51That's why people remember so many years ago.
21:54So,
21:56when you could do good work,
21:57then you will be fearless automatically.
21:59There is a system.
22:01There is a system.
22:01There are these 15-20 composers.
22:05There are some seniors who are not in the system.
22:08Now,
22:08I am not saying that I am
22:10I must believe that you are not in the senior level.
22:14Or you must believe that I am in the junior level.
22:16I cannot believe that I am doing a good job.
22:19I can do that,
22:20I hold myself with what I will do.
22:21I will not make a job like that,
22:22I will not do it.
22:24Why does my father do not do it?
22:25Sometimes he does not want to laugh.
22:27Once it comes to the song,
22:28when we do that in the song,
22:29we can mix the song with the song.
22:30No dad, wait.
22:31You are going to do it.
22:32There are spending on song on the song.
22:34So,
22:35my fight is for music.
22:37And it is with people who are against doing good music.
22:40If you do a good job, it will not be a good job.
22:44Every artist is a good job.
22:45I am a newcomer or senior.
22:47I want to do a good job.
22:49But creative differences?
22:50I don't back off.
22:53I don't say that.
22:54This is wrong.
22:57But it is the ability of the people of the audience
22:59that they can take creative differences
23:01or not.
23:02The one who is very big,
23:04they can take me from the film.
23:05They can take me from the same place.
23:08They can take me from the same place.
23:09It's not the same.
23:12I don't say that.
23:13I don't say that.
23:14I don't do it.
23:17I don't do it.
23:19I don't do it.
23:21If you don't do it,
23:23you can do it.
23:25Hard and fast rules.
23:27But I want to do this work.
23:30That's my struggle.
23:41I don't do it.
23:42But if you want to do it.
23:47I don't do it.
23:48We can do it.
23:50You do it.
23:50You are a bad guy.
23:52I can do it.
23:53I have three pictures of you night to night.
23:56Two or three people have called me,
23:58and they also give me pictures of you night to night.
23:59It's not like that.
24:00I want to stay with my music.
24:03If you're sitting with me good music,
24:05your film's budget is 5 rupees, no problem.
24:09I haven't found the film for 500 rupees.
24:11I'm not saying that if I get a chance to get a Ramayana,
24:13then I'll show you something.
24:15Or if I can become a star with this picture.
24:18I'm an anomaly.
24:20My 80% catalogue of super hit music is super flop films.
24:26So where is it that I haven't given only hit films?
24:30Later in life, I've seen Air Lift, Kapoor & Sons,
24:34MS Dhoni, Golmaal, Badrinath.
24:36There are 5 or 6 films.
24:38The rest of the 60 films,
24:40where does a superstar go on?
24:44Actually, I've never seen the stars of my superstars.
24:47So in every film, there's a learning lesson.
24:51I'm going to go there, where I feel like there is no growth.
24:54Or what do I want to do?
24:56I've made it, I've made it, I've made it.
24:58Now I've made it, I've made it.
25:01Now I've made it.
25:01I've made it, I've made it.
25:02So I'd also want to make it.
25:05So why did I'm such a big fan of my story?
25:07So why did I have this one?
25:09And so many times in my childhood,
25:12that my name is growing,
25:14so people want to take it in a film,
25:16and that it will play it in the name of his.
25:18But it doesn't play the name of his, brother.
25:21At the end of the day,
25:22I don't know the way that I had to get into the reality show,
25:24that I didn't know about my songs.
25:25foreign
25:55under touch
25:56ہو رہا ہے
25:57کی نہیں
25:57وہ ہو رہا ہے
25:58تو گانا
25:58successful ہے
25:59نہیں ہو رہا ہے
26:00تو گانا
26:00آپ کتنا بھی
26:01marketing کر لو
26:01نہیں ہی ہوگا
26:02تو it is a balance
26:03of doing good work
26:04with good people
26:06and getting the
26:07due marketing
26:08for that song
26:09تو اگر
26:10تینوں چیزیں
26:10چیک ہوتی
26:11تو گانا
26:11بہت اچھا چلتا ہے
26:12کچھ ایک چیز
26:13miss ہوتی
26:13تو کم چلتا ہے
26:14but eventually
26:15ایک اچھا گانا
26:16پہنچتا ہے
26:17شاید اس دوران
26:18میں نہ پہنچے
26:18جو آپ کو لگتا ہے
26:20کہ دو دن میں
26:20ہیٹ ہو جائے
26:21دو عفتے میں
26:21ہو جائے
26:21ایک مہینے میں
26:22ہو جائے
26:22it doesn't work
26:23like that
26:24ہم لوگ کو
26:25فلم سیٹ پہ
26:25expectation
26:26سب directors
26:27رکھتے ہیں
26:28اور ہر
26:28marketing team
26:29ہر label
26:29سوچتا ہے
26:30کہ ارے
26:31فلم آری ایس
26:32ڈیٹ پہ
26:32اس سے پہلے
26:32سارے گانے
26:33سوپر ایڈ ہو جانے
26:33چھے
26:34music ایسے
26:35نہیں چلتا ہے
26:36ڈانس ٹریک
26:37ایک دن میں
26:38ہیٹ ہو سکتا ہے
26:39ایک سائٹڑے نائٹ
26:40کو کوئی
26:41کلب میں
26:42لڑکی
26:42بیوڈیفل کر گئی
26:43چل میرا
26:44ایک کیا ہو
26:44گانا ہے
26:45وہ ہیٹ ہو سکتا ہے
26:47بڑا اگر
26:47آپ گانا کرتے ہو
26:49جیسے
26:49تُو پھر
26:50آؤ
26:51یہ تب آ کے
26:52امیڈیٹلی
26:53سوپر ایڈ
26:53تب بھی نہیں ہوئے تھے
26:54تب بھی لوگوں نے
26:55کرٹیسائز کیا تھا
26:56ارے یہ ٹھیک ٹھا
26:57گانا ہے
26:57اس سال تو
26:58اور بیٹر آلپمز
26:59تھے
27:02Today we have a lot of competition from those songs when we are doing a sequel.
27:06Why? Because there was something in those songs.
27:08There was a rush, a journey of 20 years, an artist, a creative.
27:12So all those things in the songs,
27:15all you have intentions are good,
27:18they reach the public.
27:20And the most important thing about love songs and heartbreak songs is that
27:24if you say something, then you will get stuck.
27:27If the emotion is not true, the public will not hear.
27:31And lastly, because this avarapan has elements of rock also,
27:34I am a huge rock fan and I was heartbroken because 2000s was the peak of rock music in Bollywood.
27:40But after that, 2010s was when it started going to the lower end of the curve.
27:46Do you think it will make a massive comeback, the genre itself in Hindi film music?
27:52I think if done right,
27:54do it in a very good way,
27:56then all genres are good.
28:00What is the demand of the song?
28:01If I made an EDM,
28:04then it would not be right for this melody.
28:07There was the demand for drums, guitar, live bass.
28:11So we have done that.
28:12There are some keyboards and elements.
28:15There are also some software produced sounds.
28:20But I think it has already made a comeback.
28:22With this song, with having Harijit Singh sing a rock anthem this year,
28:27I think many people will also believe that the genre is back and we should do it.
28:30In the early 2000s to 2011,
28:36rock, music, rock bands were all over the world.
28:40Somewhere after that, even music became very electronic.
28:43There are also many songs,
28:46like Suraj Dhubai,
28:47but I have never tried to leave the melody quotient.
28:50For me at least.
28:52In my journey,
28:53I have tried to be extravagant sound,
28:55new age, hip-hop, EDM.
28:58So I have tried to be a song.
29:00I have tried to be a song.
29:02At least that is my requirement.
29:04If you take a beat to my career,
29:09like Suraj Dhubai,
29:10you can also remove all the beats.
29:12Let's go,
29:14Let's go,
29:14Let's go,
29:14Let's go,
29:15Let's go,
29:15Let's go,
29:16Let's go,
29:16Let's go,
29:17Let's go,
29:19Let's go,
29:19Let's go,
29:20Let's go,
29:27Now I have created it.
29:30We are deciding too much,
29:32that Gen Z can't understand it,
29:34but Gen Z can't understand it.
29:36Gen Z should not understand,
29:39why are we going to talk about it?
29:41Why do we like this?
29:42Why do we like these songs?
29:43We do not like Gen Z's talk.
29:45We don't have a strong lyrics.
29:47We don't understand Gen Z's,
29:47who don't understand any lyrics on us.
29:49People as often,
29:51How many people in their life relate to the music.
29:56Yeah, 100%.
29:57100%.
29:57And if you want to give it to your work, give it to you.
30:00That will give you the feedback from yourself.
30:02I think people love you for this song.
30:06I have to understand that the songs are on your journey.
30:09I don't know if it's going to be 100 million or 200 million,
30:14or 1 billion.
30:15Wow!
30:16That's amazing.
30:17That's all.
30:18The hype increases.
30:20But when the audio of the song is also trending,
30:28what happens in the audio?
30:30The first time we saw the visual medium,
30:32we saw the song on Imran Ashmi,
30:33the song was made up and it was a good picture.
30:36All these things.
30:37At 2 o'clock, when someone is listening to their earphones,
30:41it's their song.
30:43So it's neither Meera nor Arizit nor Imran Ashmi.
30:47It's not a song.
30:48It's a song of people.
30:50That's a song,
30:51that's all.
30:52Let's take a look at that song.
30:53So it's a song that we feel a little late,
30:56right?
30:58Of course,
30:58the song is not possible with this song.
30:58If I just read it,
31:00you might have a bit of a song more.
31:01One, two, three,
31:03you will understand.
31:04This song is not a really hard.
31:07So the audience also has a understanding.
31:10But we all planned so put it over.
31:11And once we let it out,
31:12That's OK,
31:13Well,
31:13So that's how Gen Z will explain it.
31:16My fans are 12 years old and 70 years old too.
31:19So I have to think about everything.
31:22I give a good melody, good lyrics first priority.
31:25Then comes doing all this sajawat on the song.
31:29And true art is the one which makes, which makes how you feel.
31:33You know, it triggers your feelings.
31:34Yes.
31:35That's how you measure the excellence of any art.
31:37If you are connected to yourself as an artist,
31:39you will be connected with your music.
31:41Perfect.
31:42So with that, we have reached the end of this conversation.
31:44Kuch isi baar jomusse poochnei rahe gai ho ya,
31:45yaaap kehna chahate ho ho, yaap kehsakte hai.
31:47Nahe toh baut baut thank you kehna chahata
31:49mere sare amalians, sare listeners,
31:51jitne bhi dunya bhar mein hai.
31:54Abhi toh, maen kabhi socha hi nahi tha.
31:5610-12 saal pehle, ek chota sa studio tha,
31:59andeeri mein jaan se, maenne shuruo gya.
32:02I mean, it's unbelievable ki,
32:03wahaan se gaana,
32:05pata nahi kaha ka, Trinidad pe bhi bhajra hain.
32:08Brazile mein bhi chal raha hain.
32:10It's, Danny, when I open the streaming apps
32:12and see ki kaunse kaunse desho mein bhajra hain,
32:14me ko khud believe nae hota.
32:15Aur mein khush ho, ki ek chote vachche ne,
32:18apne sapnoh ko chhoda nahi,
32:21apna best kiya, apne dad ke lehi kiya.
32:24And, uh, maen baut, uh,
32:28I mean, I'm very grateful to my fans ki,
32:30you know, maenne ek saath-aatt saal ki journey
32:32jo li abhi recently by not doing too much work,
32:35letting go of many projects.
32:37Aisa hota hai, is industry mein log out of sight, out of mind ho jate hai.
32:41But, mere fans ne kabhi asa ho nahi nahi diya.
32:43Aur mere gaanoh ko aise celebrate kiya,
32:45jaisi ki kal release ho hai.
32:46So, big love to all of y'all,
32:48and because of that love only,
32:49I will keep on doing my best.
32:51And, there will be many more songs,
32:53but till then, listen to Ye Awara Pan.
32:55Perfect. So, on that note, thank you so much.
32:57It was a pleasure and a very insightful conversation to have.
32:59Thank you so much, and I wish you all the best.
33:01Thank you so much.
33:01Thank you so much.
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