00:00no s pen now we were talking about that beforehand yeah hamish is an s pen hater i guess
00:05i don't know where to go with you on that one well because i've been using it in the s26
00:10ultra
00:10and i kind of see some of the appeal but i think that because the s pen it's not that
00:15thick but
00:16it's thick enough that it couldn't slot inside the current form factor of the fold and the thinness
00:21is so important especially going from the six to seven where it really shrunk down that was
00:27you know the thinness is a game changer i don't want it thicker to incorporate an s pen my counter
00:32argument to that is the folds never had an embedded s pen it's always been an external accessory so for
00:38those people who do want an s pen can just go and get an s pen case we've seen again
00:43the competition
00:43you know the likes of the finding six which have an s pen well a pen which can be used
00:49not only on the
00:50main display but also on the cover display and the case is actually pretty compact too and the s
00:57the pen also charges within this case it can be used remotely with bluetooth so there are all of
01:03these things that you know we are seeing the competition this is something that i would have
01:06liked to have seen for the fold eight but maybe we'll see it for the fold nine well especially as
01:10well they were talking about this being the sort of productivity use case phone right and one of the
01:15features they were talking about was notebooks in gemini where it can pull in your photos it can pull
01:20in audio files it can pull in the notes that you've drawn on your phone and collate them into one
01:24big
01:25project page it can even make these like really cool different designed pages i think that's a
01:29really cool feature but it's one that i would want an s pen for because i do most of my
01:33notes as
01:33scribbles i'm not a typer necessarily i'm a doodler so it'd be nice to be able to have that utility
01:39back
01:40i think one of the points we've landed on before is also that it's to do with the display thinness
01:43too
01:44not just about whether or not you can embed the pen so we'll see maybe that'll make a comeback yeah
01:48it's
01:48that digitizing layer isn't it that goes underneath the display but you wouldn't think that would add too
01:51much thickness but also as people have said you know it's got to be a case it's an external thing
01:55and you know i really like the caseless look again you know that's kind of a thing where i don't
02:01need
02:01to worry too much about it and i try not to in fairness i am pretty careful of my phone
02:05but uh it's
02:06it's one of those things where i wouldn't want to lose any of that by putting a case on it
02:10to get
02:10the s pen experience
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