00:01To judge what we have seen from the Venezuelan government, none of us.
00:06We have all the disposition and only to wait for a day that the signal of Caracol Television
00:10will come back to the air in Venezuela, but none of us, none of us.
00:16Contrary to that, the signals are more incertidumbre,
00:21because we also released a RCN television from one of the cables,
00:25from the two of us where we were coming back.
00:27And no, there is nothing to indicate that the government of Maduro
00:32is going to change in the next few days, at least.
00:36I don't want to introvert them.
00:38I just want to say that we lament it.
00:40We lament it because we simply have done our work,
00:44in the case of the Noticias Caracol,
00:46to make a responsible journalism, serious, decent, transparent,
00:50in front of this and all the facts.
00:52And in the case of Venezuela, we have done it.
00:54We have been looking for the same regime to make their version,
00:59and of course, we never even have attended.
01:01We are trying to draw to those who see us in Colombia and Venezuela
01:05the whole panorama of what happened.
01:08In front of what they could have of reasons, imagine,
01:11the Bernoulli was not even a official communication.
01:14Everything was a point of rumors, of headlines.
01:18If there was a version of Conatel
01:20in which we indicated that we were inciting the violence.
01:24And the discourses of Maduro.
01:25If you get to the discourses of the last 72 hours,
01:29he dedicated a significant part to Caracol Television
01:32and other Colombian media
01:34saying that we were lying about what was happening in Venezuela.
01:37If one should think that this is what he refers to
01:40as an argument to take away from us,
01:42then of course, we reject it and we don't share it.
01:44In Venezuela, the freedom of expression is as abundant as food,
01:47as I said, that doesn't have a sense in Venezuela.
01:50In Venezuela, the freedom of expression became exotic,
01:54something so invisible as food, as guarantees, as democracy.
02:03So, I really don't miss it.
02:05I really don't miss it.
02:06What I fear is that with the passing of the days,
02:09that will be agudized.
02:11And that's what it will do is leave a society
02:14without any kind of channel to inform themselves
02:17and without any channel to express themselves.
02:19Because, also, I understand,
02:21as I said, some of my colleagues venezolanos
02:23that they are going to take hard restrictions
02:25with the internet signals.
02:27Because, of course, one tries to put their signal on the web
02:31and the Venezuelan government,
02:33as well, as in the North North and other regimes
02:36of that kind of species,
02:39what they do is try to control absolutely
02:41all their communication systems.
02:43If you go to Venezuela, the internet is very bad.
02:45Of course, the Venezuelan is recursive.
02:48Of course, even a lot of people told us
02:49that to see the news, to see the challenge,
02:52that to see, for example,
02:53the Colombia parties try to search on the internet.
02:56But that is a very precarious solution
03:00against the obstacles that the Maduro regime puts.
03:04Never.
03:05Never.
03:06Even in Cuba.
03:08In Cuba.
03:08I mean, I remember that when we were four years
03:11visiting Cuba for the visit of the Pope Benedicto,
03:14then the Pope Benedicto,
03:16before Cuba opened the spectrum
03:18so that the internet signal was better.
03:21In Venezuela, it is going through a dramatic moment of isolation,
03:26but a isolation from a regime to their people,
03:30not allowing them to inform or tell them.
03:32So, I think I've never really seen
03:34in the worst moments of many regimes
03:37or in the worst moments that I have made
03:39a situation so painful, so arbitrary
03:41and so atypical like the one is living in Venezuela.
03:45Very difficult, very difficult,
03:47because one as a journalist
03:49or colleagues in Venezuela as a journalist
03:51can have all the capacity,
03:54all the ethics,
03:55all the moral
03:58to tell the things,
03:59but if you don't have where to go,
04:01you don't have where to go,
04:03and where to go,
04:05and more on,
04:05if you're going to do it,
04:06you're going to do it,
04:07because what is happening to the people
04:08in Venezuela,
04:09who try to seek to do journalism,
04:11is very difficult.
04:12I see it very difficult,
04:13and I really didn't see it
04:15reading it,
04:16because that I didn't touch it
04:17even in the dictatorships of the Sur.
04:20It was very difficult,
04:21it was very difficult.
04:23I think that in the recent history
04:24of Latin America
04:25there was not a situation
04:27as painful as that
04:28of how the freedom of expression is
04:31not by Caracol,
04:32but by the same colleagues
04:34from Venezuela
04:35who are more restricted
04:37the way they have to work.
04:38I remember this colleague
04:40of Caracol Radio,
04:41if I'm not wrong,
04:41how the colleagues
04:45like ours
04:45and other journalists
04:47that cover
04:48international channels
04:50and national channels
04:50in Venezuela
04:50have to go with
04:51a little caricature
04:54by seeing it from here,
04:55but go there,
04:56go there,
04:57it's that they play,
04:58because they kill them,
04:59because they can kill them
05:00because they can kill them
05:01in a fridge
05:01and no one answer.
05:03That is terrorism
05:04of state also,
05:05that you kill them
05:06and no one answer.
05:07Others,
05:08maybe even in the same
05:09public force
05:10catch them
05:11and others
05:12intimidate them
05:12with telephone calls,
05:14with messages
05:15absolutely dangerous
05:17and that
05:18they are not physical violence,
05:19but they are violence
05:20that they are mining
05:21that capacity
05:22even mystic
05:23that they have a journalist
05:24it's not mining
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