00:00Did you watch at all Karen sit down with Andy?
00:02Okay, so I haven't watched it,
00:03but I've seen enough clips.
00:05It's emotional.
00:06It's really emotional.
00:07I'm so proud of her.
00:09Yeah.
00:10Karen is, she was often pegged as someone
00:15who was not honest or truthful.
00:18And a couple of my cast mates made their checks
00:22off of banking on Karen not being honest
00:25and then being able to throw it back in her face.
00:27So for her to quote her, to live in her truth
00:32and be so vulnerable, she talked about her marriage
00:35and how she wasn't in a good place with Ray
00:37and that's what drove her to make such a huge mistake.
00:42That is a relatable thing.
00:44We've all been in a place of direness and emotion
00:49and hopelessness and maybe done something that we regretted.
00:54That's something we can all relate to.
00:56And for Karen, it's such a great feat, I think,
00:59for her to come out and say,
01:02you're not gonna be able to hold this over me
01:04because I'm gonna own it.
01:05I do kind of love that she did the entire sit down
01:07because then, because if she,
01:08I hope she does come back next season if she wants to.
01:10Yeah.
01:11That they can't, the cast that you were mentioning of,
01:13can't dangle things over her.
01:15No, because she's owning it
01:17and she's going to turn it into something beautiful.
01:19And there was also a really nice level of accountability
01:22laced throughout the entire conversation
01:24because even when Andy was like, how would you tell fans
01:26who don't think you deserve to be back on the show?
01:28Like, what would you say to them?
01:29And she was like, I don't know that I deserve
01:30to be back on the show.
01:31Oh, I didn't see that.
01:32You know, time will tell.
01:33So she's really coming from a very humble place.
01:35Yes.
01:36Is she someone you'd want to interview on your podcast?
01:37Absolutely.
01:38Yes.
01:39We've talked, we've talked about Karen a lot
01:41and I'm just, I'm giving her a breather
01:43because I know she's sort of reacclimating in all phases.
01:47But yes.
01:48.
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