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In this episode, Stefan Molyneux looks at the dynamics of dating and social interactions between men and women in public places. He examines the debates about how men approach women, pulling from his own time in the dating world. Through stories from different settings, he covers the fears and obstacles men deal with in pursuing romance. Molyneux talks about attraction, social pressures, and how dating has changed, while also noting the difficulties women face in handling their interests amid expectations. He prompts listeners to think about the difference between our evolutionary background and modern dating habits, stressing the need for real connection in building attraction. In the end, he hopes to get people talking about how these patterns affect society.
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00:00Hey everybody, Stefan Molyneux from Freedom, Maine. Hope you're doing well.
00:03So this is a deep, shallow topic. It's deep, it's shallow, anything but in between. So
00:13there is kind of a debate, well more than a debate, a ferocious battle in a sense at the moment
00:21between men and women over approaching women in public. And it's a very interesting question,
00:27a very interesting challenge, a very interesting debate. And I wanted to chime in because,
00:32oh, it's so annoying when I say it. And I apologize when I say goofy things like,
00:36well, everyone's missing the point because it says, you know, I'm so smart and everyone's just
00:41missing things. But I think I have a pretty good perspective on this kind of stuff. I spent a long
00:47time as a single man. I didn't get married into my 30s and I've approached women. I don't think I
00:52have approached women online because it was kind of before my time. But yeah, I,
00:57approached women in bars, not really much in bars, once or twice, in the gym, at coffee shops,
01:06and chatted with women, and gosh, on vacation, in airplanes, on a bus once, you know. Now,
01:15of course, it didn't always work out and sometimes we didn't really click or anything like that. But,
01:20you know, as far as just chatting with women and seeing if there's any kind of compatibility,
01:24I would say it's been quite a few. Now, I know times have changed. I get all of that. It's been
01:3120 plus years, no, more than 20 years since I was in the daily market. So, I say this with all of the
01:36anticipation of the okay proto-boomer responses and comments. So, this is not how to do it,
01:44because I wouldn't deign to tell young men how to do it. But I will tell you the challenges
01:51that are occurring. Now, for a man, you understand, of course, that it's frightening to approach women.
02:01And it should be. It should be. Because if you're not frightened, it means you don't care.
02:06If you really want a job, then you're frightened you won't get it or nervous you won't get it.
02:10And if you really do find yourself very attracted to a woman, then you are going to be nervous or
02:18upset or unhappy if you don't ask her out. And men, in general, well, what do we have to do? Well,
02:25we have to go through this process, of course, where we start at the top and work our way down,
02:31right? So, you get the most attractive girl in your environment, and then you ask her out. And if you
02:36don't get the most attractive girl, then you go, right? And it's tough for men, right? Boys,
02:41I say boys, right? So, I asked the queen of the high school out. It did not work. And then I asked
02:47the second tier girls out, and they generally worked. And this is in part because my brother
02:53came back from England, took a quick horrified look at my grooming and got me a haircut and got
02:59me into better clothes. It actually happened one weekend. It was wild. He's like, we got to get you a
03:04better haircut. We got to get you some proper clothes. I don't know why it is that single moms
03:07don't help their children groom. But anyway, I actually went in, and I couldn't figure out,
03:15like on Monday, I went in and couldn't figure out why nobody was talking to me. And it's because
03:20it had been such a radical transformation that everyone thought I was the new kid. I was actually
03:27in the shower. People were like, Steph? Because, you know, I was bathing after work and, sorry,
03:32after working out, after sports, after gym class. And everyone was like, because, you know, my hair
03:37was, you know, down. And it's like, whoa, right? Because hair gel and all of that. I went through
03:41a bit of a foppish period somewhat, I suppose, or just caring about grooming and haircuts and skin
03:49moisturizer and all that kind of stuff, which is, I actually think, is actually a good thing. It's a good
03:54thing to do. So, I'm not going to tell men how to do it other than to say, like, I understand
04:01the difficulty. Because for a man, you're going to have to go through a lot of rejection. So,
04:06if you think of the most, like, there's a group of girls that you want to talk to a girl, the girl
04:12who's the most attractive, it's, you've got to do that calculation, right? You've got to do that.
04:16You go over to the girls, and you say, well, I want to ask the, if I ask the most attractive girl
04:22out, and she says no, then I don't get any second chance, right? Because if I go to the most
04:30attractive girl and say, can I get your number? And she says no, thank you, or hopefully she does
04:35it politely, then I go to the, I can't, I can't then go to the second most attractive girl and say,
04:41well, how about your number? Because she's going to say no, because she knows that she's not your
04:46first choice. And so, so then you say, okay, well, if I go for the ugliest girl, I'll probably get her
04:51number, but I may not want to date the ugliest girl. And I'm not just talking about physical looks,
04:56you know, the general air, does she have a nice laugh? Does she seem positive and warm and
04:59approachable? You know, that kind of stuff, right? So, and you have to go through a lot of rejection,
05:05because you have to find your place in the pecking order of sexual market value. And that means
05:11aiming high, because nobody can aim exactly, right? Nobody can aim exactly. You don't want to aim too low,
05:17you don't want to aim too high. Like in the gym class, I've said this in the show before,
05:21but I just remember grade six was my first dance, really. And who knows how to dance to
05:28stay away to heaven. It's basically like slow motion epilepsy underwater. But I would go across
05:36the darkened gym floor to where the girls were all lined up on the other side. And you go and you say,
05:40okay, well, I want to ask the right girl out to dance. I want to ask the right girl to dance.
05:45And what that means is not a girl who's so attractive, she's waiting for a better guy.
05:52But not a girl who's so unattractive that my friends will make fun of me for dancing with her.
05:57It's, you know, it's cold, it's cruel, or whatever. It doesn't really matter. It just it is. I hate to
06:01use this phrase, because I hate it in general. But in this case, like it is what it is, you're not going
06:04to change these mechanics through ideology, at least not in the short run. So for boys, the goal
06:15is to err a little on the high side, not super on the high side. Like if you're a five, and you go for
06:23a 10, you toast, right? If you're a five, it may be with with charm and good humor, you can pull a seven.
06:30Uh, but and if you can get a six, that's good. But most likely, you're going to end up with a five,
06:36right? I mean, if you want to know how attractive you are, look at your partner. That's, that's how it
06:41is. That's how it is. If you want to know how attractive you are, just look at your partner. And
06:45this is more in the sort of modern context. But that's, that's kind of the way that it is. So for the
06:52boys, just so girls understand it, we have to do this calculation where we want to get with the most
06:58attractive girl we can. But if we ask too many attractive girls out, then the less attractive
07:04girls won't go out with us either. Because we look deluded, right? Because knowing where you stand in
07:10the pecking order of life is pretty important. Because if you don't, you know, we've all known,
07:16you know, the big fish in the little pond, the person who's super arrogant, because they happen to
07:21be, you know, the smartest kid in a small town, high school of 50 people or something like that. And,
07:28you know, there's nothing wrong with that. But you know, you got to know where you stand in the
07:31larger pecking order. And, you know, when I was first acting in high school and university,
07:37I got all the leads without even having to audition. And then I went to the National
07:41Theatre School. And I was kind of in the middle. I mean, I wasn't kicked out. But I also didn't shine
07:45in the way that some of the other, you know, more talented or more dedicated or more able
07:49students went. So, you know, trying to find where you can do your best is important. But
07:54we all know these, you know, that sort of half angry Melania Trump look, that sort of scathing
08:03laser eye from Eastern Europe, that works because she's very attractive. But if an unattractive woman
08:10tries the same thing, she just looks kind of constipated. And so knowing where you stand is
08:16really important. If you have the intern in a company saying, I should be the CEO, he'll never
08:23probably be advanced at all, because he looks deluded, right? I mean, in terms of where he's at.
08:29So finding out where you stand in the pecking order is a humbling experience. Because, I mean,
08:35obviously, statistically, most people are at the bottom. I kind of had an idea that I was an
08:41interesting guy to listen to and had some important and valuable things to say. So I kind of gave that a
08:45shot. I mean, I did some DJing in university, but that was mostly just spinning the tracks that matter.
08:51But I was like, yes, I think I could add some value to the world, talking philosophy and all of that.
08:57And so on. I remember being in Thunder Bay when I was working at North, coming into town for the
09:04Shite Shower and Shave. And I went to a bar where there was a live band. I remember the guy did
09:11Welcome to Your Life, really great singer, the Tears of Fear song. And I was chatting with this girl,
09:18and I was really curious about her family, and so on. And I, you know, I think she was attracted to
09:26me, but I drove her away with my penetrating questions about her family when I was 18 or 19.
09:33So let's just say I've been practicing for my college shows for a long time before I didn't
09:39just hit the ground out of nowhere. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. I've been having
09:43deep conversations with people about their families and histories and choices for decades
09:49before I did any of it publicly. So it was not out of nowhere. So, yeah, you're going to have to
09:57face a lot of rejection as a man in order to find, and you've got to find that sweet spot, right?
10:03If the first girl you ask out, it's like, oh, yes, absolutely, right? Then you're like, oh,
10:07did I aim too low? And if you get, you know, 10 eye-rolling, who do you think you are, scorn
10:14responses in a row, then you're probably aiming too high, and then you look delusional to others.
10:24I mean, look, women want a man who's ambitious, but not a man who's delusional, right? So having
10:32high ambitions is a very good thing. I think it's a positive thing, but they do have to be
10:38backed up by hard work and some proven expertise, right? So if a woman marries a guy with no ambitions
10:48or low ambitions, then she's not going to have a very comfortable existence. On the other hand,
10:53if she marries a guy who's got delusions of grandeur, he wants to do all of these great things,
10:58but he doesn't really work at them or achieve them, or every time he fails, he blames someone
11:05else or, you know, blames the world, then she ends up with a guy who's kind of useless and bitter and
11:11resentful and angry, right? Because almost nothing angers a man more than the entitlement of thinking
11:18he should be receiving great things. He should be receiving accolades and praise and groupies and
11:26blah, blah, blah. Nothing angers a man more than thwarted vanity, right? Which usually means that
11:35you haven't been handed off from your high-praised mother to your skeptical father. So, yeah, so if
11:41you've got a guy, if you're a woman and you marry a guy who talks a big talk but never actually does
11:48anything, never actually achieves anything, yeah, I want to make a lot of money. I write about this
11:54towards the end of dissolution when you finally hear about Helen's. It's very interesting for me,
11:58at least, at the end of the book, you find out about Helen's early life in more detail. But
12:04if the man has no ambitions, you've got to have the Aristotelian mean, right? Reasonable ambitions.
12:10Ambitions are always a little bit delusional because they are indications of wanting a higher state
12:17prior to achieving it, right? So, there's always a certain amount of delusion around ambition and
12:26you need that, right? You needed some imagination in life but you don't want to live in fantasy
12:31because that's enraging to you and exhausting to everyone else. I mean, I had a, there was a guy I knew
12:39when I was younger who was really, really good at math and physics, like he would regularly get
12:46a hundred percent. Well, actually, I knew two friends who were good at math and physics and
12:53one of them went on to try and get a math and physics double major at a very tough university
12:58and they were bell curved down all the way, right? In other words, if you're a professor,
13:05you can't give people high marks because then people think the course is too easy and you get in
13:09trouble or the administration thinks it's too easy. But if the marks are too low, then people
13:14don't want to take your course. So, generally, what they do is they do very hard exams and then
13:18they grade them up so everyone has like a 70. And because he was so used to being really good at
13:24stuff when he had to really, and I think they were too tough from what he was telling me, but when
13:29he got these really brutal exams where people would get like 20 percent and then they'd be graded up to
13:35like a 75. Because if the average is 20, you can't fail everyone in the class. So, you have to
13:39grade them up. You have to increase the average score to something reasonable. And the professor
13:44said, like, people don't complain about their scores going up, but they do complain about them
13:47going down. So, I have to make the exams really tough. And he could not take that on. And again,
13:56I think most of it, I mean, most of the people here, most of the people who listen to this are
14:00pretty skilled and pretty good, at least something. And so, you know, when I went from being the best
14:06actor in university, which, you know, doesn't actually mean that much, of course, to, you know,
14:10just kind of okay in theater school, you know, that was a pretty significant adjustment, right?
14:17And a healthy adjustment. Because, you know, you need to find out the facts. It'd been tough at the
14:21time, of course, right? You need to find out the facts. So, I remember when I was in a garage band
14:26and sang, and I was like, eh, it's okay, but not great. You know, it's not great. So, eh, maybe not.
14:34Maybe that's not for me. So, or not so much not for me, not for the audience. And some of it was
14:40just wretched. Some of it was just bad. I was trying to sing too high. Oh, damn you, Gordon Sumner.
14:46Anyway, so, for the boys, it's tough and it's complicated. You got to find, you don't want to find a
14:53woman, oh, I'm so lucky to be with her, and so on, because that's the kind of insecurity that
14:58is going to be exhausting, and she's going to end up, you know, both people want to feel that
15:04they married up, and that's kind of impossible, in a way. So, you have to sort of find sort of a
15:10sweet spot. Now, so that's it for the boys, for the girls. Oh, I would say it's almost more
15:16complicated at times, right? Because at least, at least as guys, you could do something,
15:22right? Girls, you can't really ask guys out. I still don't think that's much of a thing.
15:28I know it happens, but it's not as common. And generally, girls certainly do prefer to be
15:34asked out, because it's a courage test, and a test of, and they like it if the guy's nervous,
15:40because it means he really cares. So, it's the beginning of pair bonding that he really cares
15:44about the girl. So, for girls, it's tough, because it's passive. I prefer being male,
15:50because if there's a problem, I can do something. I'm a big one for, like, leap into action, right?
15:56If I like a girl, I'll ask her out. And if she says yes, okay. If she says no, that stings a little,
16:04but, you know, at least I don't get the pining around for things. So, for girls, though, it's really
16:13tough. So, for girls, you have to be, because they know that men are visual creatures, so they have
16:23to be as attractive as possible, but because they're passive, and this is not a negative,
16:31it's not a criticism, it just generally is the case. It's still like 80 to 90 percent of dates
16:35are asked out by the men. So, because they're passive, it's different. So, if you imagine,
16:41like, let's say, you're a guy, and your mating display is, you know, super expensive watch,
16:46expensive car, like, whatever it is that's going to signal your wealth, right? Okay. So, that is
16:51your mating display, but you're not going to get hounded by women, usually. I mean, obviously,
16:57if you're a rock star, but you're not going to get hounded by women. The women are going to be
17:03super attractive and preening and hoping that you will ask them out or ask them to the VIP room or
17:08whatever it is, right? The champagne room. No, not the champagne room. The bottle service room.
17:12Sorry, champagne room. I think it's stripping. Anyway, like wallpaper? Ask your mom. Anyway, so,
17:18the women don't, in a sense, corner and ask out the really attractive man. So, a man can be really
17:27attractive, and he's still in control of the situation. Now, if a woman is super attractive,
17:33because the women want to put on their, they want to put their best foot forward to get
17:38as attractive a guy as possible, right? So, a woman will make herself as attractive as possible
17:47to get the top-tier guy. The problem is that attracts a lot of other guys that she doesn't
17:55want to ask her out. No, not those mosquitoes. Just that mosquito, right? Doesn't really work.
18:03And because males tend to be more active and women tend to be more passive in the dating scenario,
18:09or men propose and women respond, or men propose, women dispose, right? Men ask, women say yes or no.
18:16So, if you're a really attractive woman, you will attract a lot of guys who will show interest in
18:22you, which is a problem if that's not the guys you want. So, to take a sort of silly example,
18:27typical example for at the high end. So, a woman who's a 9 or a 10 wants to attract a guy
18:33who's a 10 but she'll put up with a 9. So, she dresses to maximum attractiveness and that attracts
18:40all guys from 3 or 4 all the way up to 9 or 10. And it's complicated because she wants a quality guy
18:48who's at her level. So, the problem is very complicated for women. So, if a guy that's not
18:58attractive enough for her starts talking to her, it's tricky. She has to get rid of him, but not in
19:05such a negative or rude way that he might escalate, make a scene, storm off, stomp off. Or, if there is
19:12a more attractive man, she has to get rid of him quickly so that the more attractive man
19:18doesn't think that the girl who's a 9 is dealing with a 4. In other words, she doesn't know her own
19:25value. Or, that she's with a 4. Maybe he's super wealthy or something like that. So, the woman who's
19:32a 9 has to get rid of the guy who's the 4, but she can't do it in a super hostile way. She can't do it
19:39in a cold way, and she can't do it in an aggressive or mean way, because if the guy who's a 9 or a 10
19:46sees her being mean to someone, he'll be less attracted to her. So, she has to almost will the
19:52guy away while being relatively positive and friendly, but not so positive and friendly that
19:58he thinks he has a chance. Right? Understand? To be passive is, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think it's
20:05nicer. It must be nicer for women, because I couldn't take it. I couldn't take it. But that's
20:12the complicated thing with regards to women. I mean, it's one of the many complicated things.
20:19Be attractive. Attract just the right guy. But if you attract just the right guy, you're attracting
20:2420 other guys. So, you have to be cold and unfriendly and unapproachable. Right? RBS,
20:32resting bitch face. You have to be cold and unfriendly and unapproachable. However, if you
20:38are cold and friendly and unapproachable, then the guy you want to approach you might mistake that for
20:44you being cold and friendly and unapproachable, and therefore not ask you out. So, you have to show
20:49cracks of warmth and friendliness, but only to the guy that you're attracted to, but not to the point
20:55where you draw on all these other guys that you're not. So, you understand, right? It's crazy
20:59complicated for women, because they are passive, and men are more active in the dating scene.
21:06And look, this is not easy for women. It's not a lot of fun for women. It is like, what's it,
21:15some show I watched once where you're timed on how quickly you can thread five needles or something
21:21like that? Like, it's really complicated. The more friendly and peppy and positive you appear to
21:26attract the guy you want, the more you're going to attract guys you don't want. Then you've got to
21:31shut them down really quickly, but not so coldly and aggressively that the guy you want looks at
21:36you and thinks, God, what a horrible person, right? So, it's a mess. And it's not what we're designed
21:41for. See, part of the modern mess is that we're not designed to pick our own mates out of a giant pool
21:52of possibilities. I mean, how did we evolve? We evolved in tribes of 100 people, 150 people,
22:00maybe 200 people on the outside, right? That's how we evolved. So, you grew up with 30 kids,
22:0840 kids, 50 kids, and you kind of paired off based upon shared knowledge and experience of growing up
22:15together. So, you're not, we're not designed to be on mating display in a situation where we don't have
22:27personal knowledge or access to personal knowledge of the people around us. We're not designed at all
22:35to pick our mate out of an endless potential of unknown others, or the only thing you know about them
22:44is how they look. Because the only time that a woman would end up with a mate that she didn't
22:53know anything about is if her tribe was conquered and the men were murdered, which is another reason
22:59why dating strangers is alienating for women, and dating strangers triggers an out-group preference,
23:07right? You know, that sort of famous heat map of the out-group preference. So, dating strangers
23:13triggers, triggers women's endocrine systems, endocrine systems, sorry, not chronological,
23:20endocrine systems. It sort of, it gets their whole system to believe that all of the men they grew up
23:29with, all of the boys they grew up with, have died, been murdered, been captured and sold into slavery,
23:36and now she has to choose among strangers. And that means that out-group preference has been
23:42activated, right? So, women would generally tend to prefer dating within their own group,
23:48their sort of own tribe or whatever. But, of course, the women who were able to flip the switch to go
23:54from in-group preference to out-group preference outbred those who, you know, if you try and kill my
24:02husband, you'll have to come through me. It's like, okay, they'll just kill you and your husband,
24:05one of those genes die out. Whereas the genes that survive are the ones that are like, oh, okay,
24:09so, um, all right, that's really bad. Bad scene. My husband just got killed by Thulsa Doom's henchmen,
24:20and so I guess I'm gonna have to reproduce with the new guys, the new guy. So then you have to,
24:29you have to be chosen by a stranger. You don't choose a stranger, you get chosen by a stranger.
24:33So, the sort of mobility and social media and all of that, like when I was growing up,
24:40in general, you would try and choose your, as a teenager, you would try and choose your mates
24:45from the women you went to, the girls went to school with, right? Because, and you knew quite
24:48a bit about them, because you got to see them for years, and you could ask people about them,
24:52and you might know their brother, and, you know, so you can, you know, sort of, you knew quite a bit
24:58about them. The same thing in university, although you know less, you can still, you see them in
25:02classes, you know what they're taking, you can interact with them, uh, and, and see them, and so
25:07on. But as you start meeting people later and later in life, you know less and less about them,
25:12which programs you more and more to believe that your men have been conquered. Now, from the male
25:22perspective, if you don't know anything about the females in your environment, then that's usually
25:31because you've been captured and sold as a slave, because that was the norm, right? If you were,
25:37if you were not killed as part of a conquering tribe's invasion, if they won, sorry, conquering,
25:44you get it, but you might be sold as slaves or kept as a soldier or something like that, so then
25:50you'd be around, you get sold into some slave market, you go to some distant town, and now
25:54you're around a bunch of women you don't know. So why would you not be about the people around the
26:00people you grew up with? For a woman, it's because the men have been conquered and killed or driven
26:04away or sold into slavery. For men, it's because they've been captured and thrown into leg irons and
26:12dragged off to some distant land where they don't know the women, which is why men are kind of
26:18depressed and lonely and isolated and not very proactive, because by having a bunch of strange
26:24women around, women you didn't grow up with, you're programmed into a slave mentality. And for a bunch
26:30of women, you're programmed into slave girls of gore, having been conquered and got to be turned on by
26:35the strangers, but you can't be active, right? Because you don't get to choose, like the conquering tribe,
26:40you don't get to choose the men. And so for women, when they've been conquered,
26:46they generally take two strategies, right? One is that they will try to make themselves as
26:51unattractive as possible so that they won't be raped by the conquerors. And the other is they
26:55will try to make themselves as attractive as possible so that they can get the highest status
26:59conqueror and continue their genes and so on, right? Which is why you see this bifurcation into the
27:04right-wing attractive women who are single and the left-wing wingers who are mutilating their own looks.
27:10And all men are patriarchs and evil and so on, right? So this is just a thing that's happening.
27:16You know, we're all programmed deep down to these kinds of responses. And the right-wing are those
27:22who are loyal to the tribe they have, and the left-wingers are the ones who are loyal to the tribe
27:26they want to replace the tribe they have because they can't succeed, right? A traitor is someone who
27:33genetically can't succeed in the society that is, and therefore will take his chances.
27:40with the new society, which is why preventing or discouraging men from reproducing will always
27:47trigger a rebellion or a revolution or, you know, unfortunately, scans of bloody violence because
27:54if men can't reproduce and women can't reproduce, but in particular for men, because they tend to be
28:01more active. If men can't reproduce in the society that there is, then they'll simply take their chances
28:05with a society that is not, right? You might as well side with the invading army if none of the
28:15women will reproduce with you in the society that you're in. You might as well side with the invading
28:20army because then maybe you'll be tossed a woman as gratitude for your help in lowering the drawbridge or
28:27giving them the location of the troops, and so then you reproduce in that sneaky cuttlefish way.
28:33Again, this is not a moral judgment. I'm just telling you the way that society works. So, to destroy a
28:39society in its current state, you simply make, and this is part of why, sorry, you simply make men and
28:45women not reproducible. They don't reproduce with each other. So, this is why a lot of times you will see
28:51a promotion, and I think it comes from pretty sinister groups of people, this promotion of,
28:58you know, women are trash, the hoflation, and the men are patriarchs and lazy and game addicted and
29:06porn addicted and so on. And, I mean, that's true for some, of course, right? But the promotion of this
29:11kind of stuff is to reduce the birth rate because when you reduce the birth rate, the genes panic and
29:17say, well, look, if we're gonna die out, then anything's better than that, which is why you see
29:26an increased interest in both free market capitalism and in communism and fascism, because people are
29:36like, well, I can't reproduce. I can't. I can't have a family. I can't get a home. I can't get a stable
29:41job. I can't reproduce. So, this system has to go. I mean, or, you know, as I usually do, right? To put
29:48it another way, those genes that overthrow a system that prevents their reproduction survive, and those
29:55genes that just passively slide into irrelevance don't survive. And that's why the, I mean, I posted
30:01this on X a day or two ago, that this blowback is coming. The pendulum is going to swing, and it's
30:06going to be wild. It's going to be wild how far this pendulum is going to swing. So, yeah, if you
30:13keep people from reproducing, they'll rebel inevitably. And then everyone is kind of shocked.
30:20It's like, well, no, that's, that's natural, right? The genes that don't rebel don't survive.
30:25So, if you want to replace or destroy the current system that is, then you simply turn men against
30:32women, and you turn women against men, which creates bitter women dependent upon the state.
30:38It creates isolated, embittered men who are ripe for rebellion, and the seeds are sown, and the,
30:46you know, you sow a demon seed, you raise a flower of fire, and that's kind of inevitable.
30:51So, a woman sitting in a bar, it's tough. She wants the right guy to approach her.
30:55And one of the ways, of course, that you kill the birth rate, and sow the seeds for revolution,
31:02like whatever kills the birth rate, sows the seeds for revolution, because life has to find a way.
31:08So, what you do to both men and to women is you constantly give them vanity prompts.
31:17You're special, you're great, don't settle, aim for the best, aim for the highest, and you
31:23constantly have these people that are in movies, and TV, and media, and so on, like the Harvey
31:31Specter, what is the guy from Suits? The Harvey Specter guy who's like, never be second best,
31:36always aim for the top, always be great. Now, you know, he's a brilliant guy with beautiful
31:41suits, and a great haircut, and so, yeah, I mean, he can aim as high as he wants, I guess,
31:46right? But it's sort of like Jon Bon Jovi or Freddie Mercury saying, well, don't settle
31:53for anything less than being the lead singer of a rock band. It's like, well, if you're
31:56extremely musically talented, and good-looking, and have a great singing voice, and yeah, then
32:00you're a great performer, yeah, absolutely, don't settle for being less, don't settle for
32:04being the front man of a bar band when you could be the front band of, you know, Queen,
32:08or, you know, whatever, right? So, but when the people who succeed say don't settle, what
32:14they're saying is, well, I have such a prodigious degree of talent that not settling is great
32:18for me. And lots of writers get rejected. I think the Fountainhead was rejected by 16
32:25publishers, and Doom was rejected by every publisher under the sun and moon until the
32:29car dealership, or the company that printed the car manuals took it on. But most writers
32:38who are consistently rejected by publishers are rejected because they're bad. So all the
32:42people who say, well, I kept pushing, and it worked out well for me, well, that's obviously
32:47a very selective sample of people for whom pushing worked out. But there's a lot of people
32:52who pushed and pushed, and were rejected and rejected, and wasted their lives because they
32:57really weren't that good. I mean, that's a very real thing. It's a very real thing in
33:01the world. So what you do, of course, is you say to women, you deserve the best, and you
33:07constantly parade the best-looking specimens like the Ryan Goslings and all of that in front
33:12of them, and, hey, girl, I got you, girl, I got you, right? And the sort of soft-voiced,
33:18hyper-masculine, totally buff, you know, the Jamie Dornans and all of that. You can't say
33:23parade and say, you deserve the best. You deserve the best. Well, no, you don't. You deserve what
33:28you negotiate. You don't, yeah, I don't deserve an audience. I don't deserve, I think I do the
33:33best show. I don't deserve an audience. I get what I get based on, you know, what I'm willing
33:39to do to get the audience. So, but you say you deserve, and you create this sense of
33:44entitlement, and then, you know, you now end up in this situation where, like, 95% of men
33:51are considered unattracted by women. And, of course, the other thing that you do, and this
33:57is a, it's a tough one to understand, and obviously, you know, approach women gently, and if they
34:01say no, back off, but when women are saying, oh, I can't stand it, I go anywhere out into the
34:07world, and, like, guys are just so, they're hitting on me all the time, they won't leave
34:11me alone, right? That is a mating display. I know it sounds counterintuitive, right?
34:15My girls and I, we just want to go out, and we just want to have fun with each other, or
34:18we don't want any guys floating around. Oh, my God, I just want to do one thing. I just
34:21want to go out and dance and have some fun, and I just dress up for me, and it's like, that's
34:25a mating display. I know, I know, it seems kind of counterintuitive, but you have to understand
34:30how these mating displays work. So, when a woman says, I can't go anywhere without guys
34:35hitting on me all the time, what is she saying? She's saying, look how attractive I am. I
34:40am crazy attractive. I'm so attractive, I can't leave the house without guys hitting
34:44on me. That's a mating display. That's a mating display. Oh, my girls and I, we just want
34:49to go out and dance and have fun. We don't want a big hit on my guys. It's like, no, because
34:53you're dressing up in an attractive way. So, what they're saying is, look how attractive
34:56I am. It's a form of mating display. It's like the women with bird hands in the car, spouting
35:03crazy opinions with hyperfilters on and yelling for some reason. It's a mating display. Just
35:08look at me, look how pretty I am. Like the women, portrait was invented for cleavage, right?
35:12Because men don't have cleavage. We don't really use portrait. I'm a landscape guy myself. That's
35:16because it needs to fit my ego. But when women say, oh, it's crazy. Like, I can't go anywhere
35:23without guys draping themselves all over me. Everybody wants my Snapchat ad. That's a mating
35:27display. Look how attractive I am. Look how attractive I am. And she's hoping to draw in
35:34the guy who is attractive for her. The other thing, of course, is that women no longer care
35:42that much about the judgments of men. They only care about the judgments of other women.
35:47And what that means, what that does to women, is that if she has a guy, he's maybe not super
35:53attractive. He's maybe not super tall. He's just a nice guy. He's an average guy. He's a nice
35:57average guy. She's a nice average woman, right? And so they start dating him, and all the other
36:02single girls get jealous. And, you know, single women keep women single, right? So they'll just
36:07say, oh, he's okay. I think you could do better. But, you know, he may be a placeholder. He may be
36:11an F-buddy. He may be a doofer. And they start sowing the seeds of discontent and dissatisfaction
36:17in this woman. And then they keep her single, because they don't want to see another woman get
36:22happily settled down while they're still single. So because women are now really only responding
36:33to the opinions of other women and not of men, because if they went to their male friend and
36:36said, well, what do you think of this guy? He's like, yeah, he's a nice guy. He's a nice guy.
36:40Yeah, he's a good provider. He's a solid guy. He's got a good job. You know, he clearly is crazy
36:44about you. Good for you, right? So women are like, oh, you know, but he's got, doesn't even have a
36:49left chin, you know, and his eyes are kind of weak, a little far apart. Like they'll just nitpick
36:52until the woman just like, oh, okay, well, I guess he's not that attractive. So that is
36:57one of the consequences of women. No, I'm not saying women should only listen to men. But the
37:01fact that they don't listen to men at all means that they're just getting terrible advice about
37:05dating as a whole. Because if single women knew how to not be single, they wouldn't be single,
37:11right? So and I've heard this so many times over the years about, oh, this guy, I really liked him,
37:16but my girlfriend said he was terrible. He turned out to be a really good guy. And he got married
37:20to some woman, she's very happy. And, you know, it's, yeah, getting advice from other women who
37:26were single about relationships is a very, very bad idea as a whole. So yeah, ladies, gentlemen,
37:32I'd love to hear what you think. Honestly, as always, please tell me how much I got wrong,
37:36because I'll try and improve and get things better as I go forward. But those are my thoughts,
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