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Mumbai: In an exclusive Interview with Playback Singer Shaan, where he shared his thoughts on the legendary Kishore Kumar. He discussed how Kishore Kumar's iconic songs, like his timeless renditions, continue to captivate audiences. Shaan touched upon the challenges artists face in adapting to changing audience tastes and technological advancements in the music industry. He also spoke about Kishore Kumar's strong stance on artist compensation, highlighting the legendary singer's professionalism and assertiveness. Lastly, he opened up about his favorite Bengali song by Kishore Kumar.

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00:00So hello Shaan sir, welcome to INS and first of all congratulations for the concert
00:04Thank you so much
00:05that's about to come up 19th of September, a homage to the legendary Kishore Kumar sir
00:10I want to start off by asking that you know you have a monumental career behind you
00:15still a favorite of an entire generation, the upcoming generation as well
00:20as a singer, as a musician, your philosophy how has it been shaped by the great legendary Kishore Kumar
00:26Most of it has been shaped by the legendary Kishore Kumar sir because he was listening to his songs on the radio
00:32and that was a time in the mid, late 70s when almost every song, every film
00:39you know every time the radio is on you hear Kishore Kumar's voice
00:42in fact even today you know you hear a lot of his voice
00:46but that was a time when I loved him with his voice
00:50so whenever he was listening to his voice, he would stop, I would stop
00:53you know since then not that I wanted to be a singer
00:58but you know through his songs I got to know philosophy of life
01:02and you know inspirational songs
01:07you know in life is a movie, and you never die
01:10or this is a life, this is a life
01:13So the rules of my life, the rules of his songs, they were written by someone else
01:18someone else. But because he would sing them I thought you know he was saying these things.
01:22When I came to a point that I wanted to sing songs, clearly I thought that as they were
01:29approaching songs with songs, with a boy next door, I never thought about how many songs
01:35I could show as a singer, how many songs I could show as a singer.
01:41No one can say that with a head phone in the studio, there is a person singing.
01:49He thinks that if he is singing in the mountains, he is singing in the mountains.
01:52If someone is in the mountains, he is in the mountains.
01:55So that I kept in mind. That when I sing also, I should keep a visual in front of me and I should
02:00sing as if I am in that place. I should transport myself to the location of where the song is going
02:05to be picturized in the body of the actor who is going to be, you know, miming the song.
02:13So all these thoughts, ideas came from, from of course, Kishorda, Rafi sahab, all of them,
02:19you know, they are my gods of music. Mukesh ji.
02:22Of course, of course. And there's a lot of songs across the languages of India.
02:30But there's one song which I personally like. It's one of my favorite.
02:33As a singer, I would like to know you. As a consumer, I would like to know you.
02:37As a consumer, I would like to know you.
02:39If you could explain, for you, the nuances of your songs,
02:42when you were singing, what you have recode.
02:44You can listen to this song.
02:46My favorite song will be the song will be the song will be the song will be the song will be the song.
03:00Now, the song is very sad. The song is called The Soul Jalé.
03:04It's the song that someone's love has lost.
03:06My love will be the song will be the song.
03:11My love will be the song will be the song will be the song.
03:14Today the song will be the song will be the song.
03:19My love will be the song will be the song.
03:25He also does this.
03:27The composer also gets happy.
03:29He says, what a feeling, what a emotion.
03:31But no.
03:33He's saying that in the beginning,
03:35there's a pathos.
03:37My heart is your heart,
03:41I have come to you.
03:43Matter of fact.
03:45And he tells us what he's done with the picture.
03:47Of course.
03:49My heart is the end.
03:53This is wrong.
03:54So he knew just how much.
03:56Emotionally,
03:58you will feel real.
04:00And if you do it with it,
04:02it will be mimicry of the emotion.
04:06For example,
04:08I like you.
04:10You're a good guy.
04:12I like you.
04:14You're a good guy.
04:16So that is what I learned from Krishogar.
04:18Just the perfect balance.
04:20Live it. Just believe it.
04:22You don't have to convince anyone.
04:24Keep your feelings in your mind.
04:26And keep that feeling in your head.
04:28And keep that feeling in your head.
04:30And this is for the first time,
04:32you're dedicating an entire concert
04:34for an artist like Kishore Kumar.
04:36What is the set list?
04:38If I want to know you.
04:40It's a very long set list.
04:42There are songs on the 70s.
04:44There are only songs on the 70s.
04:46There are only songs on the 70s.
04:48There are only songs on the 70s.
04:50And he has to express through his songs
04:52a journey and an emotion.
04:54Of the individual who is sitting
04:56at the auditorium.
04:58There are some interactive things.
05:00Because I'm sure,
05:02all Kishore Dha fans are all the songs.
05:04So,
05:06if I do a humming
05:08then
05:09you should know
05:10that.
05:11But then we will do a competition
05:12about who knows.
05:13If I do a hum.
05:14How many songs on Kishore Dha's today
05:16are relevant.
05:17There is a section.
05:18So,
05:19there is a playlist.
05:20Of course,
05:21Dhamal's last 30 minutes
05:23are all his dance songs.
05:26Songs that he sung for himself.
05:28Like,
05:29There are many songs.
05:30Jhumru.
05:31Yudeling.
05:32So,
05:33it's a very interesting set list.
05:35Okay.
05:36And as a singer,
05:38you sing many songs in the studio.
05:42But,
05:43a thrill of live performing
05:44is something else
05:45from what I have understood
05:46from all the singers.
05:48Because,
05:49you interact with the crowd.
05:52You have to make
05:54minor tweaks and changes
05:55to perform.
05:56Of course.
05:57As a singer,
05:58personally,
05:59which medium
06:00do you like more?
06:01Is it the studio sessions
06:02or the live?
06:03Or is it different?
06:04Yes.
06:05No,
06:06it's the same.
06:07It's the same.
06:08It's the same.
06:09It's the same.
06:10It's the same.
06:11When you sing a song,
06:12it's a huge responsibility.
06:13If you sing the song,
06:14it's a huge responsibility.
06:15You sing it
06:16as if you sing it
06:17that it's a longevity.
06:19If people listen to the song,
06:2010, 15,
06:2120 years,
06:22then you sing it.
06:23So,
06:24it's a different challenge.
06:26It's a different experience.
06:28It's a different experience.
06:29And,
06:30of course,
06:31life singing is the same thing.
06:33you only get that one chance. You can't go back on what you're doing. And also connecting
06:40with your audience. We've done a lot of planning on this show. But I'm sure that when we go
06:46and perform, some of the things that people like, we'll extend a little bit. If we don't
06:54feel in the field, we'll cut a little bit. Because we have to connect with the audience.
07:00We cannot lose that connection even for a second. So life is a different challenge.
07:05But yes, especially a show like that, it's a curated show. Yes, go and see it. They'll
07:12put their songs on Google, there'll be lyrics in front of them. Sir, what do you want to
07:15listen to? Okay, let's go. They'll sing this song. It's all very well curated, well planned.
07:27After singing, which song will come, how the scale will come, what music will play.
07:32It's all planned to the T.
07:34Okay, okay. And while performing, you said that the song as a singer has a responsibility,
07:41because the song has a longevity. Today's music, especially 2020's, and if we compare
07:481990's, 2000's, or all old songs, our Hindu songs, Indian music. That longevity, we're
07:55living that out. There are a lot of songs that go for a long time. First, there were a lot of
08:00songs that go for a long time. Why is it because of the change and taste of the audience, or the
08:05technology, or something else behind it?
08:07No, there's no such thing. Look, as I said, I think all of these things, but what will
08:14happen with my thoughts? I've sung more than 3,000 songs. How many songs do you remember?
08:20How much of the longevity of it? 10%, 15% at the most. So that's how it is. I mean,
08:28kuch gaane filter out ho jayenge. Kuch gaane amoman buray hain, to us ka kya kare hain?
08:32O tab bhi bane thai, abhi bane, or aage bhi bane baale hain.
08:35Ab dousri baat, ye bhi hai, ki of course, jayse hum sab jantai hain, jab se phone a gaya hain,
08:40you know, public memory, public attention is very, very short. Aaj ek din me hum kitne sari
08:45cheeze kar liet hai. Us bich mein fursat mili hai. To we want to make the best of that.
08:50Abhi aadi ghande mein ek cd mil jati ti thai thai thai hum ches sat kaaneh mazeh se sun leeti thai.
08:57Abhi medium as a hain phoon pe aapke pas, you know, a billion songs, a million songs hain,
09:02a million songs hain. Across the world. Aadi ghande mein aap ek kyun, dho kyun,
09:06aap 10, 12, shahad 20 gaaneh sune loo, thoda-thoda karke, thoda-thoda karke.
09:11So which is why, jab ta ke gana aapke andar se ga nahin, aapke zahhn mein, aapke dil o dumaak mein,
09:17ho chahe ga nahin. Usse abo mookah nahin deenge. How will that song last?
09:23So earlier, loogon ke paas patience thi, vokht tha.
09:27Or ye saholet nahin thi, ke ek minute mein chare gaaneh sune loonga.
09:31Usse liye to ab show kar rahe hai. Kishorda khud aapne show karte teh teh,
09:35to itne gaaneh nahin karte teh. Na, kiunki eke gana araam se proper proper karte teh.
09:39Lekin ab mein ek gana, tine antre wala gana karunga, loog utke baathroom chle jayenge.
09:44So people have become restless and we have to, we have to go with that.
09:51Okay. And but ye chiz ko agar mein thoda dousere tereke se dhekho, it's very scary also for the medium of art itself ki publica attention kam.
09:58Nye, ki douseri baat ye bhi hai, ke aaj agar aapko ussi public ki attention ko apko pakadna hai,
10:05then you have to sensationalize something. You have to do something that will grab their attention immediately.
10:11Chahe woh beat se ho, chahe woh kuch aisi agi bato se ho. Ya phir joh ek trend chal raha hai.
10:18Ek zone joh trending mein hai, ussi zone mein aap woh gane ko đal do.
10:24Kya aapko pata hai ke yaar zahadha tar jo audience jayse aaj aga sad, dukhi, slow, love songs ka ek door chal raha hai.
10:33To humari audience alradi u zon mein hai.
10:36O alradi aise hai. To unko woh hi zone mein de do. To inertia ki zon mein ho chalta raha ga.
10:42These are just marketing toys. It's just that, you know, jab 2000 to 2010, jab hum music kar rahe thai koi sad song thai ni.
10:50Sad song he nahi tha. Aap nikalo. Aapko ihya da hai. Arba tere bin ho ashiki.
10:55That is also nineties. In fact, very early nineties. Nineties me pher bhi sad song bante te.
11:002000 sad song bane ni. Hero is, you know, yaa to Australia mein hai, US mein hai.
11:06It was a time. Yeah, yeah.
11:08Pher sad songs ka door. Sad to nahi lekin intense romantic.
11:12Humare romantik bhi anek busy hoti thai. Yeah.
11:14It was fun. Kuch to huwa hai. Kuch ho gaya hai. Kiro amesha aise hai.
11:19Aar Khan's always having fun. Saman Khan's always, you know, enjoying himself.
11:23To sarak ye films thai. So trend badalta hai. Tastes badalti hai.
11:29Lekin ushe sabse hai pher music hum saamne rakte hai.
11:32Aar aaj jo gaane ban rahe hai. Ek achchi baat hai. Lyrically, bich mein door aya tha.
11:37Khe lyrically bhot ajiwajeb cheize ho rye thi.
11:40But now, lyrically, you know, they are writing better songs.
11:42And songs that you can actually sit and aram se ap sun saktte ho.
11:47That is at least better.
11:49Lekin humare time pe aal se ek mix back tha.
11:51You know, you got a lot of dance music.
11:53Jo aaj kal bhot kam ban rahe hai.
11:55Bane pe ho bhi recreations ban rahe hai.
11:57You got a lot of fun romantic songs jo aaj kal nahi.
12:00Duet songs jo aaj kal nahi bante hai.
12:03To, yeah, there's always room for improvement, of course.
12:07And Kishwur Dha ke baare me ik baat hi kae jati.
12:10Amit sar nai bhi boli ye godhne.
12:12Ki he was very particular about the payment.
12:14Ek aese medium mein kaam karna.
12:16Nahe, I'll explain this to you.
12:18Corporate, jahan ek artist ko dabane ke kooshish karta hai.
12:21They want to cut corners to save cost or anything.
12:23Waha pe ek artist ka firmly khada ho na.
12:26Aapne liye, aapne kala ke liye.
12:28Ye aagyaoli generation kiyo kitna inspire karta hai aapke opinion.
12:32Dekhi, meri pita ji composer teh.
12:35Meri pita ji paaz ek bar message aya.
12:38Khabar aai.
12:39Kishwur Dha bode re, kya wana?
12:40Gana nahi ga hon tari liye kaabhi time se.
12:42This I've heard from the,
12:44I was there.
12:45Toh pita ji boli, meri paaz kaamini, meri paaz ee bhojpuri film hai.
12:48Toh bula le, aaj aata ho.
12:51He took 3000 rupees.
12:53And he sang a bhojpuri song.
12:55Not one, two songs.
12:56For my father.
12:58So, an artist or any human being is an emotional person.
13:02Of course, you want to value your art.
13:04You know, ke when I know ke I'm being undervalued.
13:08To aap kao ke nahi yaar.
13:10Agar tum chahte ho ki Kishwur Kumar tumara liye gaane gaaye.
13:13I pay 50,000 rupar lieta ho.
13:16Us time pe it was an unheard of rakam.
13:18And hunhen mil raha tha.
13:20Or, woh khushi khushi loge de rahe tha.
13:22Or, woh gana ga rahe tha.
13:24Aaj koi artist hai.
13:25Aaj ke tariq mein artist hai.
13:26I know for a fact that they,
13:28Karoona mein maangta hai.
13:29Or, paasaan ko milta hai.
13:32Usi artist ko agar dil hua ke yaar nahi.
13:34Mujhe in ke liye aasi gana gaana hai.
13:36To gaa denge.
13:37On ke marzi ke malik hai woh.
13:39Thing is that, you know, we don't have a minimum wages.
13:41It's not a union or we don't have any kuchh fixed ke, you know.
13:44Yis kaam ke liye ithna hai.
13:45O individual par mirbhar hota hai.
13:48Toh that is a call that an individual can take.
13:51I am very fixed.
13:53I am very fixed ke mein,
13:54Jaisi aap ke liye mein x me ga rahe hong.
13:57Lekin koji bada aadmi hai tos ke liye mein zero mein gaahonga.
14:03Aaisa nahi.
14:04Mera woh fixed payment hai.
14:05Woh dee do bhai.
14:06Or, mein aakar gaah doonga gana.
14:08Bas.
14:09Aapne ktheiz kai baut achi baat hai ki.
14:10Baut achi baat hai ki.
14:11Or, baut acap payment hai hai.
14:12Khaasni hai.
14:13Isle mein harre ke liye gana gata hao.
14:16Aaisi nahi ki aap machboor mei kar raha ho kye meri baas bada kam nahi hai.
14:20Even when I was singing for the top composers, I was still singing for a new comer, for a new film.
14:24For a some strange horror film.
14:26Kabhi kabharu gaane nikaldi hai.
14:27Yai yaa kya kar raho ho.
14:29Ajeeb si picturization.
14:30Wahabhi meri awaz hai.
14:31Mujhe gaana gaana hai.
14:32I want to be in front of the mic.
14:34It depends on the relations that you make.
14:35Nahi nahi.
14:36Gaana gaana hai.
14:37Acha gaana ho but soja hai.
14:38And they value my value.
14:40They give me my whatever mera jitna payment hai.
14:43Who kar rahe hai.
14:44May gaana gaara hao khatam.
14:45Yai meri naopriye.
14:46Yai meri kaam hai.
14:47Aapne baat kahi union ki ki.
14:49Singers, Musicians ka koi yasa union.
14:51Jaisai cine artist ka union hai.
14:52Yai meri.
14:53Union to nahi hai.
14:54Lekin amara samra hai.
14:55Humara apna ek.
14:56You know, ek sanghathan hai.
14:57Jis ki zariye.
14:59Aaj kal singers ko revenue bhi aar hi hai.
15:03To woh to hai.
15:04But us mein aasi koi provision nahi hai.
15:05Ki ek singer ko apko minimum itna paisa dhen nahi hooga.
15:08Iisa buch nahi hai.
15:09Aap singer nahi cha raha ho.
15:12Chahta haa ke nahi.
15:13Ben ki nii aasi gao.
15:14To you can't tell that.
15:16Nih, nahi.
15:17You have to take this money.
15:19Okay.
15:20Okay.
15:21And Kishorda ki baare maat karerane.
15:22Jaisai ki maine pehle bhi ka esse interview.
15:23He has sung songs across the languages.
15:26Bangali language me ko ye gana jom mujhe nahi pata ho.
15:29Aapka bohut favorite ho.
15:30Aap chahte hain ki viewers be ose gana ko sune.
15:32In Pengali language me teh itne saray kamal kamal ki gaane hain.
15:35Meri Pida ji ka jo aakhri gaana onho ne record kiya.
15:38In his career.
15:39I mean I lost him very early.
15:41That was sung by Kishorda.
15:42And it's a beautiful philosophical song.
15:44Bangali gaana hai.
15:45Kaffi poplar bhi tha.
15:46Go gana film.
15:47Bandhubi ka e gana tha.
15:48Eh hi ji.
15:49Do gana hai.
15:50Gana hai.
15:51Yeah.
15:52Eka baadarayad e gana hai.
15:53Eka pagalur e gana ho bhi bharat famous tha.
15:55Okay.
15:56Or ea gana tha ki.
15:57Eh ji ji baner pat shoghanai je no.
16:00Bado aaka baka bohundhu.
16:03Pothe jokuni thangbe.
16:06Klaanthi naambe.
16:08Faabe daakhaye bohundhu.
16:11To bohundhu ane ni dost aur bohundhu ane ni ye nazaara.
16:15Okay.
16:16Toe us mein tha ki ea zindagi ka jo ae raastah e bhaa.
16:19Seedha mat samjha hai.
16:20Bada teeda meeda hai.
16:21Lekin ruk jao ge na.
16:22Thakana a jaegi to raastah wahan khatam.
16:24Toe rukna nahi hai.
16:25Chalte rahna hai.
16:26Toe is tara ka gaana tha.
16:28Jo Kishnabudha ne gaya tha.
16:29Mere pita ji ke liye.
16:30Bangali me hai.
16:31Okay.
16:32Marathi bhi gaana on ka hai na.
16:33Kitna popular.
16:34Aswini.
16:35Ye na.
16:36Bohut saare gaana hai.
16:37Bhojpuri gaana hai.
16:38Bhojpuri gaana hai.
16:39Across the languages.
16:40Jai jai jai.
16:41Perfect.
16:42So with that we have reached the end of this conversation.
16:43Ashi baat jo muc se poochnayi gai ho.
16:45Concert ke baare mein.
16:46Aapki kala ke baare mein.
16:47Kuch aap kehanah chate hao.
16:48Nini yaapne sab sab ache sawaale poochhe aur.
16:50Riz Life.
16:51Mujhe apse poochhna hai.
16:52Riz Life kye hotta yaar?
16:53Riz Life is just a Gen Z term.
16:54Gen Z term.
16:55Gen Z term.
16:56I am a millennial.
16:57But it is a Gen Z term.
16:58Riz is like a fun thing.
16:59Cool.
17:00Cool thing.
17:01To impress someone.
17:02Okay.
17:03Wonderful wonderful.
17:04Perfect.
17:05Stay Riz.
17:06Whatever.
17:07Whatever.
17:09I wish you were his life.
17:11Thank you so much.
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