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Climate change minister Chris Bowen says he’s still weighing up legislating emissions target
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2 months ago
The federal government will soon announce Australia’s 2035 emissions target. But unlike its 2030 target, it may not be written into law. The Minister for Climate Change Chris Bowen says he's still weighing up whether to legislate the target.
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Minister, a busy month ahead for you, obviously a lot of the focus is on that net zero by
00:09
2050 goal, but 2035 target, what kind of a milestone will this be for Australia?
00:15
Well it will be a significant one because it's our second ever NDC, we're on the second
00:21
round of NDC's nationally determined contributions around the world.
00:25
It's a very important waypoint between now and 2050.
00:29
Now as I've said many times, Australia's target will be two things, ambitious and
00:34
achievable.
00:35
Easy to be one or the other.
00:36
We could have a very high target, which I could not explain to the Australian people how we
00:40
would achieve.
00:41
We could have a very low target, which would just be business as usual, doesn't really
00:45
drive further innovation, further investment, further policies.
00:49
So it should be both ambitious and achievable and it will be.
00:53
And look alongside that target or around that target, you're also releasing the government's
00:58
net zero plan.
00:59
It's been I think more than two years of consulting work that's gone into this.
01:04
What is this plan?
01:05
What will it mean for the public and for business to have a pathway to net zero?
01:11
So it's an updating on the Morrison government's plan, which was a bit of a joke.
01:14
Unfortunately, it basically was a bit of a string and band-aids type operation.
01:19
Now, of course, a net zero plan is not every single detail about every measure or every
01:25
inch to 2050 because it wouldn't be a realistic document because we can't all predict every
01:30
movement between now and 2050.
01:32
But we can give a very honest assessment of what we see is the most likely pathway to net
01:38
zero by 2050.
01:40
What we see is the key developments to get there.
01:42
Of course, there'll be technological improvements, some of which we can predict, some of which will
01:46
take us by surprise.
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Are you intending to legislate 2035 to give some certainty to business?
01:52
Well, we don't need to under the Paris rules, of course.
01:54
We did last time for that very reason.
01:56
That is something I would discuss with parliamentary colleagues about whether legislating a 2035
02:03
target is a feasible thing to do or not.
02:08
You know, it would be, we said, we made the point last time that it does provide greater
02:13
certainty.
02:14
But in that context, let the world know that the government had changed, but the parliament
02:19
had also changed.
02:20
And that was very important in that context of coming in so soon after that decade of denial
02:25
and delay.
02:26
I think that's much better understood around the world at the moment.
02:29
So we'll, once we've done the 2035 target, I'll assess the situation about whether there's
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a pathway for legislation.
02:36
So it's really about whether it's politically necessary or practical?
02:39
Well, that's right.
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And look, it's not technically necessary.
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We will notify the UNFCCC of our 2035 target immediately on announcing it.
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Before 2035 target gets announced, you're of course planning to release the climate risk
02:53
assessment and the adaptation plan that comes alongside it.
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It sounds like it's going to be a bit of a scary document or a confronting document
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for people to see.
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But what's your vision for it?
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What is the purpose of putting this kind of a plan out?
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What is the picture you think it will give people?
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It's a compelling document and an honest document.
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I don't think anybody who reads it will think we've gilded the lily here.
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But it's a factual document.
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The best scientific analysis available to the government of Australia will be there for
03:25
people to see.
03:26
Obviously, I'm not going to go through it now, but it will show our country has a lot
03:30
at stake.
03:31
A lot at stake.
03:31
I wouldn't necessarily call it a scary document, but it's a serious document which will show
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that we have a lot at stake in getting this right.
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The path to net zero, if we don't take it, there's a significant price for our country.
03:42
It's been about three months now since the cheaper home battery scheme began.
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Two months, actually.
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Only two months.
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One July to one September.
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Two months.
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My counting is that.
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Well, what's the picture that we've seen in that two months?
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What's the response been from people?
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Extraordinary response in those two months.
04:01
46,000 home batteries installed around Australia, which is very much at the upper end.
04:08
of our hopes as to how we thought Australians might take it up.
04:11
I think that just shows Australians are getting on with it.
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You know, they're not distracted by this debate in this building about net zero.
04:18
In great numbers, Australians are getting on with their decarbonisation journey, which
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is so important to the country.
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Interestingly, the biggest take-up is in outer suburbs and regions, rural Australia.
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You know, when I did it, when we announced it, a lot of people said, oh, this is just for
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inner city, you know, lefties, rich lefties in the inner cities.
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The opposite is the case.
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Some of those electorates have the lowest take-up.
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The highest take-up is in regional Australia.
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Seats like Mayo in South Australia, right in Queensland, outer suburbs, Gilmore in New South
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Wales, and western suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne, for example.
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And that, I think, just is a, again, a reminder that this false argument that somehow people
05:07
in the cities want action on climate change and people in the rural areas are against it,
05:10
it's just always been a lie and it's still a lie today.
05:13
And that, I think, just a lie and it's still a lie and it's still a lie and it's still a lie.
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