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00:00What's the warrior ceiling?
00:02Like take everything, you know, and this is kind of what I'm getting at
00:06Do you mean seed or record or playoff run? I mean search your damn
00:12Heart and God and tell me what you feel
00:15Like this is what I'm kind of getting at. We in fact, we just got a text. Damn it. I lost the number
00:22I know cuz I always want to credit people. I want to like I love it when somebody interacts with our show
00:27Here you go. 5-1-0. Willard. They've been mediocre most of the year respectfully. Here's my response
00:32It's like what the hell's that got to do with now?
00:36What's your man got to do with me? I got a man. I'm not trying to hear that
00:41See, I don't care that they were mediocre in December. You're right. Of course, you're right
00:46They're 28 and 27 or 27 and 26, whatever the hell they are
00:51Like yeah, that's that's their record
00:54But talk to me about now and tell me what you see I'll tell you what I see
01:02It's a team. That's clearly better
01:04It's a team that clearly has more answers in the final six minutes of a basketball game
01:09It's a team that and here might be the most important thing and this has got nothing to do with our eyes or the television
01:14Or however, you take in the games. It's a team that clearly feels better about itself
01:19It's also a team that right now is healthy
01:22It's a team that right now if the season ended there would be more games or at least more game
01:28Right, like so when I look at that, what's their ceiling?
01:32I'm not gonna tell you that this team is is a championship contender or even a contender for the Western Conference Finals
01:38I think they're ceiling right now. This is right now today
01:43Valentine's Day. I think their ceiling is winning around. I
01:47Think they'll be in the playoffs and I think that they might be able to win around
01:51So if I put the over-under on playoff wins at
01:55Four and a half you would take the over. No again their ceiling. I'm not even predicting that I think right
02:02I'm offering you that as an over-under woman. I would take the under if I like again
02:07So the ceiling is not Western Conference fun
02:09Who would bet on their ceiling like that's what guru did with the Chiefs and you lose
02:14Well, no, no, like I'm not who would bet like I'm all ears to win the West against everyone else, right?
02:19I'm not would be that but I'm not telling you that I'm predicting their ceiling
02:23I'm telling you that I think that that's the that's the most that they can get out of this orange
02:28I think the ceiling is higher than that
02:30Okay, like the ceiling if you want to talk about the ceiling for me, the ceiling would be Western Conference final
02:35Okay, so you see because for instance, let's say let's say they're the seven
02:39All right, right as the things stand right now today and this can obviously change
02:44Yes, there's so many teams that are so close
02:46But today that would put them in a first-round series against the Memphis Grizzlies
02:50I think the Warriors might be able to win that like I'd give them a chance
02:53Sure. Now if they were to win it, they would then face the Denver Nuggets or Houston
02:58Uh, he was not gonna be there. He's not gonna be the three or the Lakers
03:03Yeah, I don't think those teams are catching Denver. That's my prediction. I look at the Western
03:08They're not think about teams like what team do you look at and think that they?
03:13Cannot beat because they beat in Oklahoma City twice this year. They beat Memphis. Yeah, but Denver's a tough one
03:20They just beat Houston series is different. I know but you've got Jimmy Butler now. Yeah, Jimmy Butler is him
03:25He's him II Butler. Well, and so that's his nickname go to basketball reference. I think it's Jimmy buckets
03:31It's a number of different ones. If you go to anyone's basketball reference, there's like five different
03:36There's only one that people use nobody runs around calling him a himmy buck. Hey me Butler. Hey me, but nobody does that
03:43He's he me Butler. Nobody says that if you want to talk about ceiling for me. The ceiling is
03:50vaulted its Western Conference finals because I do think that you can
03:54Get into a deep series and if you get into a deep series with Steph and Draymond and he me Butler
03:59I do think that the later you go in a series the more likely you are to win it because you've got
04:05Clutch players and Jimmy Butler's done that in Miami. He's done things that are improbable
04:11He's taken an eight seed and won the damn conference in the East
04:15Yeah, and so he's a guy who hasn't won a title, but he's been big in big games and in big moments
04:21so for me the ceiling is
04:23You win two series. Okay, you get to the Western Conference fine
04:26I mean, I guess this is genuine question now if you feel like they can make the Western Conference finals
04:35Why don't you think they can make the finals?
04:37Well, that's the ceiling for me, I mean
04:39No numbers like I guess that I'm listening to the concept of why you think that's the ceiling and you just listed off a bunch
04:47of teams that
04:48Seemingly you believe they've got a chance to beat and you listed names like the Thunder and the Grizzlies and the Rockets and the Lakers
04:56Why is there not the possibility then that they go all the way to the finals?
05:00Well, the ceiling really would be they win the whole damn thing. But well, that's
05:05Mathematically sure again again, I'm talking about like no ceiling
05:09No
05:09I want to know in your heart like if you if you feel like they can win two
05:12Why not three because I do think that Denver for one is a bad matchup
05:17Okay, you don't see bad matchup, even though you've beaten. Okay see in the race. Okay, see a bad matchup. I think so
05:23I don't mean they're they're awesome
05:25So there's night and I don't like me
05:27I have anyone who could guard Shay and you saw what Kyrie did to you and I think that she's better than Kyrie
05:32And so I think about this team and point of attack POA defense and you don't have that
05:38And I think Shay becomes a very tough matchup if there's no one who can guard Shay and I'd argue that that person doesn't exist
05:44On earth, but if there's nobody who can guard Shay and nobody who can guard Kyrie, then why is there somebody who can guard jaw?
05:51I
05:52Mean jaw is a little bit different and I think that Memphis by and large is a little bit more inconsistent
05:58I don't know if jaw has yet gotten to that point where like Kyrie's done it. He's a champion. He's in his 30s
06:05He's a veteran for me
06:06Jaw is still a little bit meteoric and I think that you can take jaw out of his game a little bit
06:11the other one is
06:13Denver and the Joker and
06:16Draymond has shown that he can guard yo kitsch in in spurts and spur and
06:22Now he's getting older, but that's hard seven times in a row. That's really hard
06:26No doubt and Denver's playing much much better
06:28They've won eight in a row and now Denver is you know trending toward maybe being the two or they probably won't catch
06:34OKC but eight and a half back, right?
06:36So they probably won't but Denver to me is a team that is starting to find its championship form
06:41Yeah, I I agree with you completely Denver to me is that that would be very very difficult
06:46And the other rat on the table for me is the Lakers
06:50Because I don't I don't know you brought to you by at go past I don't like I can't answer questions about the Lakers yet because
06:58When I looked at the Warriors and Lakers
07:01Previously, I always felt like oh, that's a rough matchup for the Warriors
07:05But that idea was largely based on Anthony Davis the Warriors
07:10Traditionally do not have an answer for it a size
07:13Scorer like Anthony Davis, he would give them so much trouble on both ends of the floor
07:18Now he's not there you're not there now Lucas there
07:22Yeah, that's a completely different animal and a different set of problems
07:25but I'll need to I guess I would want to see more to learn who the Lakers are and
07:32Learn the Warriors Lakers specific matchup before I can say that the Warriors are not a good
07:38You know that the Lakers are not a good matchup for the Warriors in the playoffs
07:41I actually don't know that right now and I guess having Jimmy Butler now to go against LeBron helps a little bit
07:47But if you don't have Jimmy you saw what LeBron did last time they played and Jimmy was in street clothes in the sidelines
07:52And you don't have an answer for LeBron even though he's 40 and you know Wiggins normally would be that guy
07:58Can Jimmy Butler guard LeBron? I'm not sure. Yeah, and you know Luka is a big-time problem
08:04So for me the Lakers is is a matchup that I would want to avoid. Yeah, I mean, I don't know
08:09I like, you know, they've only played two games with Luka
08:13One of them was against Utah and they got blown off the floor
08:15So I I don't know what they're gonna go through and I hearken back. It's a conversation
08:20I had you know who told me this years ago Michael Thompson clay's dad
08:24He told me that when you're talking about these top offensive players in the game. Thank you
08:28When you're talking about these top offensive players in the game, there's no such thing as guarding them
08:33You can't you can't stop any of them. You can't stop Steph Curry
08:37You can't stop Kyrie
08:39Shade Gilgis Alexander get out of here. There's no guarding that guy. That's why they're the best offensive guards in the game
08:47Now you can make it hard on them
08:50And that's all you're trying to do is make it hard on them
08:54And then they're also human beings so on certain nights shot is not gonna fall and on certain nights it is
09:00That's kind of why I did not come out of the game the other night in Dallas
09:04Overly concerned like I get that the Warriors came out a little flat and sure there's a they missed layups
09:11There's a bunch of things you can point to and say do that better and they know that
09:14But I don't look at it as some like Oh
09:18ridiculous fumble because one of the top one-on-one players in the world was on his game and
09:26There's really not a whole lot you can do when that happens
09:29You just try like I don't dig it when that's going on and we start
09:34Spotlighting individuals ago Kyrie cooked you yes
09:38Yes
09:40like
09:41Rucker Park dude Kyrie will cook anyone in this planet and
09:44Then the shot will or won't fall. There's nobody in the world that can prevent Kyrie Irving from getting a shot off
09:51No one that doesn't exist. That's why he's Kyrie Irving. Oh, you could double him
09:55Well, sure, you can get the ball out of his hands if he's playing within the framework of of team basketball
10:02You know like not at Rucker, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he and and his shot he was on one so
10:10Salute, that's all
10:12Tip the cap. I mean when you have a team that has only clay and a bunch of no names
10:18You could have done better
10:19I thought to double him and to try to make other people beat you and you know
10:23you mostly tried to
10:25Single him up and I I shared with all of you the text message of every basket that he made and they tried every
10:32Simple defender and including your guy buddy healed who is now maybe getting shuttled further down
10:39I'm glad Steve was listening to Willard and dibs live from Houston yesterday
10:43You ought to see a 14 minutes two points that felt better. Oh, looky. Looky the Warriors won, right?
10:50Oh, yeah, I
10:52Mean, maybe that's gonna be the way it goes and when she comes back
10:55It feels a little bit more likely that that's what you're gonna do
10:58But in a short sample yesterday you came out and you won a game that you you didn't have to win
11:05But boy you go into the break feeling a lot better with a positive record totally totally the huge one last night, by the way
11:12Pods into the starting lineup and it does not sound like that's a short-term thing. I hear Steve Kerr on that last night
11:17We felt like it was the right time to do it
11:20I think Brandon has played so well the last couple weeks that I think he needs to be in the in that starting group now
11:26He gives Steph another ball handler decision-maker
11:30He makes a lot of plays out of nothing with his with his brain and his skill. It was good to get him out there
11:36I imagine he's gonna be out there now, you know as a starter for a while
11:39Obviously with Steph Jimmy and dream on and I thought Moses complimented those guys really well. We'll see how it goes from here
11:46We got JK coming back. Hopefully within a couple of weeks
11:49So we always have options, but I think I think BP's got to be out there
11:53BP 39 minutes last night Moses Moody
11:5834 minutes last night
12:00I
12:02half joked
12:03That the Warriors if they're not feeling things right now, they should check in for a minute or two on Pat Spencer
12:1113 minutes last night
12:13Um
12:14But shots, yeah, and buddy healed 14 minutes. Yeah, that felt better
12:20Well, it felt better because they won. Yeah, and you know, it felt like the right thing to do
12:24Let's put it that way
12:25I guess and you know
12:27It felt better because they won and it felt better because you know pods came out and played great and he made his layups
12:33Which is nice because pods is at a hard time at the rim near the rim
12:37Finishing and you know two of seven from three, but for me with pods
12:42it's more about him making the
12:44Intermediate the close shots because he gets to the rim a lot and if he's gonna shoot 30% from three
12:50I'll live with that because I don't really look at him as a three-point shooter
12:54But buddy healed getting only 14 minutes and Oh for four for three or it feels like you know
13:01They're realizing that if he's not hot and he's not then why play him?
13:06No doubt eight eight eight nine five seven nine five seventy
13:09So, what do you think as we take a break for the all-star game and beyond?
13:13Warriors don't play for a full seven days till they're in Sacramento next Friday night
13:17What do you think their ceiling is now that you've seen their new look? Let's go to Jonathan in the city. Hi Jonathan
13:23Thanks for calling
13:24Hey, thanks for taking my phone call. Hey, you know how
13:28Jimmy Butler said that he is not in game shape yet. So I'm excited to see you know
13:34Jimmy Butler in game shape
13:36I think that will happen, you know him being suspended for a lot of times
13:40we've kind of helped him to be fresh heading into the final stretch and
13:44in the playoffs
13:45Hey
13:46if health permitting if they're healthy heading to the playoffs and if Jonathan coming though comes back and
13:53picks up where he left off before the injury and
13:56If they draw a matchup like a young OKC team or even the Rockets even Memphis team like that
14:04I see them in the elite eight and maybe the final four because hey all of a sudden with the arrival of Jimmy Butler
14:11The lawyers are no longer one-dimensional
14:16Jonathan thanks. I mean he mentions the ultimate wild card. I can't wait to see this
14:20I can't wait to see how Jonathan coming gets
14:24Fit into this whole puzzle off the bench. That's the well or or not
14:28I don't know probably I would think right but I don't know what they're gonna do
14:33But I like I can't wait to see how that fits in if it goes well then
14:40Now you might now you might have something now
14:42You might be cooking like it is important to bring up the fact that we're looking at this new look team and we still don't
14:46Have a full look at it
14:48Yes
14:48and I do think
14:49you look at what they've done with the starting unit and Moses Moody as the power forward quote-unquote and if you feel comfortable playing
14:56him at the four and
14:58He played 34 minutes last night. He had 10 points. He was a plus 10
15:01I don't know why you would disrupt that maybe his minutes go down a little bit and you know, the pods minutes
15:08He played 39. Maybe those goes go down a little bit because you want coming in to play, you know 25 or
15:15Even a little bit more when he's healthy. So where do those minutes come from? They come from ghee
15:20They come from maybe Pat does buddy get shuttle even further down
15:24I do think you you bring coming off the bench and I like the starting lineup with
15:29Pods in there and also with moody at the four
15:32I wonder if it'll still be moody or if it'll be coming go or if they'll you know, kind of
15:37They'll play with that like they have been I think that I heard Tim Roy say last night that that was the 33rd
15:43Different starting lineup of the year. Yeah, they have only played 55 games. They have 33 different starting lineups. Yep
15:51Whoa, when they're running out of starting line, I'm thinking unless you know, you want to throw in Jackson
15:57Row has not started yet. No, I don't know if well Quinton has and buddy has for sure has has Pat Spencer
16:04I don't think so. I don't I don't think so
16:08GP to who was a late scratch from the game last night
16:11He has started right right and and CJC has for sure for sure
16:15But all this feels like right now and never gonna see him again. Yeah, he got buried. Yep. He got buried
16:20I'm glad he's participating this weekend so he can finally run Pat Spencer has not started again. Okay, there you go
16:26All right, that's a JD's participating in rising stars. Okay. Yeah, he's one of his yeah
16:32Although he doesn't feel like he's rising right now
16:34But it's just you know, and I did a whole thing on Pat Spencer yesterday. I'm gonna leave that there
16:39Isn't it? Perfect that that after you say that we go to
16:43Pat in Foster City. Hi Pat. What's your last name if you don't mind?
16:48Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for taking the call. Do you want to give us your last name? And is it Spencer?
16:55No, no, my last name is Merrill like Merrill Lynch, but unfortunately no relation. I wish there was a relation
17:02Anyway, yeah, thanks for taking the call. You know in terms of upside realistically with the Warriors
17:07I mean, I have a hopes that are much higher than this
17:09but if I had to
17:10put money down on it
17:12I would say that the upside for the Warriors is to finish maybe in the seventh seed and
17:16Losing the first round by maybe winning two games and losing that first series for two that to me is feels about
17:23where that's kind of what I
17:25Kind of think that is maybe the upside for the team this year
17:29And the reason I say that is only a couple fold
17:31But one I think they don't have really the Warriors don't have the luxury of kind of coasting into the playoffs
17:37They got to fight the rest of the way and with an older team and looking at minutes and stuff with these older guys
17:43you know, you're not gonna not gonna be able to have play stuff for 22 minutes and dream on for 24 minutes and
17:50You know these guys for you know
17:51Manage minutes are gonna have to be kind of flat out all the way into the playoffs pretty much
17:56Depending on what coming to does. Oh, he can get out and play 32 minutes and relieve some of that pressure
18:01Maybe from some of the older guys, but nevertheless
18:03I think they're gonna be pretty well spent by the time the playoffs come if they get you know into the playoffs into the seventh
18:09Seed or whatever, but I think a big part of it is
18:12Kaminga and I think if he has if he can come back and really contribute and play well
18:17It'd be fantastic, but if he doesn't get much opportunity or
18:22Doesn't play well, you know our Moody's playing ahead of him
18:25I think they're gonna have a big problem in the locker room because you know, this is coming his contract here, right?
18:30And if he feels like he's not getting opportunity and he incurred not been the best
18:35Best roommates if you will for the last few years
18:37Anyway, they have to I think give coming a chance to do his thing, but if he succeeds, I think it's great
18:43But if he doesn't then I think there's gonna be maybe it's a little bit of turmoil there
18:47I think a lot of it has to do with Kaminga. Yeah, Pat. Thanks. I think that's all pretty level-headed
18:52I don't know that I would predict much of a chance of a locker room problem based on Jonathan coming
18:59I think it's important to to to point this out
19:02Jonathan has been
19:04Frustrated reportedly off and on for a long time now with regard to whether it's starting whether it's minutes
19:12What have you and he has handled that?
19:15really well
19:16Really? Well, like one thing you always look for because I bet anybody can relate to this got anything in your life
19:22It's frustrating you right now. Yeah, maybe couple. Yeah anything sure. It can be yes
19:28It could be your boss. It could be your spouse. It could be your kids. It could be your car. It could be
19:35The government I like whatever
19:38Whatever how do you handle that?
19:41What do you do with that? You know, do you pout do you lose it? Do you not do your job anymore?
19:47do you not do what's expected of you anymore or
19:50Do you channel that and try to turn that into something like when you get the opportunity?
19:56Bang off you go and Jonathan I think has done that really well. I want to give him credit for that
20:02You know what? I mean?
20:03Like tonight this take 30 seconds quick quick story my daughter Ella so she's on a JV soccer team at Tam High and
20:13first handful of games the year
20:15Never got off the bench like coach did not put her in her practice every day
20:20Every game there there there
20:22She was not getting in and she would be frustrated after games and she would talk to me about that and I would say
20:29Hey go to Twitter
20:33Come to work with me and scream about it on the air. No, I was like
20:38Keep doing what you're doing. Your time is coming. Your turn is coming. Just trust that your turn is coming
20:45She had no idea at the team banquet the other night. She got the award for most improved player
20:50Oh, wow, and like and I like so proud of her because she never broke stride. Just keep doing what you're doing
20:57I Jonathan coming has done a good job of that this year. I
21:01Think
21:02I mean last year he had the one report where you know through his agent
21:07He was unhappy about his role in this and that but this year. Yeah, your head is down and it's a little bit
21:14Colored by the fact that he's missed now seven weeks and he's gonna miss a couple of more
21:18So it's hard to really chirp when you're not available to even play no doubt