00:00I don't know where to start with this, Marina, honestly, because it's very, very difficult.
00:04Already from the book cover, which is this one, and it has this title.
00:08The title is the word exile.
00:11An exile, according to the Spanish Royal Academy, is when someone is taken out of their land for political reasons.
00:17I don't know who the hell comes to mind or goes through his head that Nair is an exile.
00:22Nair is a perpetual prison, because on December 29, 2017, he murdered his boyfriend, who was called Fernando Pastorizo.
00:29The first shot was fired from behind, the second shot was fired in the chest, while he looked him in the eye at a distance of 20 centimeters.
00:36There is no turning back.
00:37Despite that, this author, Vanessa Doglioli, writes this book.
00:44I was able to reread or read the book a little.
00:46Yes, I also read it.
00:47Which is not actually written by her.
00:49No.
00:50What the author does is somehow frame Nair or help her, but the one who writes the book is Nair Galarza.
00:56It is the compilation of a series of half-released and disillusioned thoughts of Nair Galarza about his life and his work.
01:05It is in the first person of Nair.
01:06Yes, it is in the first person of Nair.
01:08And we have rescued some phrases that are extremely striking and that will cause repulsion to everyone.
01:14This is one of them.
01:16This, for me, is the worst of all.
01:18Nair Galarza says in this book,
01:20We are all passive-aggressive.
01:22I think killing is a fairly complex ethical dilemma.
01:26In a situation where you had to kill someone to save yourself or save someone, would you do it?
01:32It is asked rhetorically.
01:34And the first thing to say is that here Nair lies, because his life was at risk.
01:39Never.
01:40He never suffered his life.
01:42It was not either Fernando's life or hers.
01:45The only victim there was Fernando Pastorizo.
01:49It is a level of cynicism to say that it was either one or the other.
01:53When he gave up, as you said he gave up, he killed him on the floor in cold blood.
01:57Totally.
01:58But if you like, we continue the review.
02:00God always gives us that famous albedo.
02:03But in my case, says Nair, it was not like that.
02:06Mine was not a decision.
02:08It was not planned, thought.
02:11It was just something that exploded.
02:13Lie.
02:14False of all falseness.
02:15Here he wants to prove a kind of violent emotion.
02:19That did not exist.
02:20Briefly.
02:21Nair Galarza invites Fernando Pastorizo to his house, grabs his father's gun from the fridge,
02:27has time to grab the gun, gets on the motorcycle, had the whole trip to think about what he did,
02:33and just like that he decided to shoot.
02:35Therefore, it is a lie that it was not planned, that it was not thought,
02:38and that it was simply something that exploded.
02:41As he also wanted to say.
02:42It's a lie.
02:43In a few moments we are going to add the look of another journalist from Policiales,
02:47who is Rolando Barbano.
02:48We have it.
02:49She is on the floor.
02:50She followed the case of Nair Galarza from minute zero.
02:53And she has a lot to say about this issue.
02:56And it is interesting to enrich the points of view.
02:59So in a moment, Rolando will sit down.
03:01I suspect that his indignation will be similar to ours.
03:04I don't even tell you to read the file.
03:07Anyone who has heard what happened, it outrages you.
03:10Look at this other phrase that also caught my attention.
03:14If you wait for me to say that I suffered gender violence,
03:18that's how it was.
03:19And many years.
03:20And I ask myself again.
03:22Why did no one grant me the right to defend my humanity?
03:26Lie.
03:27Lie.
03:28He did not suffer gender violence.
03:30He was ruled out in the trial that he suffered gender violence.
03:34They presented it as a defense argument.
03:36They tried to prove it with chats.
03:38And in all instances, the same thing was said.
03:41There is no gender violence.
03:42In everything.
03:43Another cut.
03:44This is extremely incredible for the end.
03:48Because it tells what she felt at the time of the murder.
03:52She says.
03:53While the air hits your cheeks and your mind goes and comes
03:57showing you in a moment your life, your situations.
04:01Your tears roll down your face.
04:04And suddenly, there it was.
04:06Standing next to your fear.
04:08To that pain that is like a thorn that is hard to tear.
04:11That doesn't let you breathe.
04:13And you react.
04:14Because it is innate to everything and to all.
04:16No.
04:17Not all of us react by killing the person we have next to us.
04:20No.
04:21No.
04:22It is false.
04:23No.
04:24And it also talks about fear, pain.
04:25Fear.
04:26The one of Fernando Pastorizo when he was shot.
04:28The first shot.
04:29Pain.
04:30The one of the family that continues to cry.
04:32And that can no longer embrace him.
04:33Totally.
04:34And now it talks about a murderer who never repented.
04:37He never repented of what he did.
04:39And in February, there will be an auditorium.
04:42Probably full of people and full of journalists.
04:45And at some point a screen will turn on.
04:47And on the other side, Nair Galarza will appear.
04:50Just like this flyer says.
04:53Which indicates that on February 21 at 6.30pm.
04:57Nair Galarza, live from the prison.
04:59As if she were a celebrity.
05:01She will give a press conference where she will present her book.
05:05And further down.
05:06Further down.
05:07Can we see the sponsors of this press conference, of this book?
05:11If they are there, I will tell you.
05:13Well, I'm going to read them.
05:15The government of Chaco.
05:16The Secretariat of Culture.
05:18That I understand that they sponsor, while you are looking for Mari.
05:20I understand that they sponsor the whole event.
05:23It seems to me like a book fair or something like that.
05:26Now, also have to put.
05:28And the municipality too.
05:29And the municipality.
05:30Will have to put the logo of the Chaco government.
05:33So that Nair Galarza presents her book?
05:35Yes.
05:36When these fairs are held.
05:37The municipality has to authorize.
05:39Who are the ones who are going to exhibit at the fair.
05:41It is not that anyone is there.
05:43Decide, speak such.
05:44Tatiana comes to present such a book.
05:46Everything has an organization.
05:48They can't do it.
05:49Ah, I didn't know this.
05:51No, it must be said that both the government.
05:53As the Secretariat of Culture of Chaco.
05:54Then they denied or said no.
05:56We do not endorse.
05:57There are those who say that they were already on the flyer.
05:59For the event in general.
06:01And they were also stuck to the presentation of Nair Galarza.
06:04But the truth is that.
06:05That flyer has at its feet.
06:08The auspices of the government of the province.
06:11Of the Secretariat of Culture.
06:13And of the municipality.
06:14And she leaves.
06:15This is so.
06:16She leaves flying all the time.
06:18That idea of.
06:19No, it wasn't me.
06:20It was my dad.
06:21Do you remember that old idea.
06:22That she had.
06:23That she took to the end.
06:24With some lawyers.
06:25Some media.
06:26That followed her to the end.
06:27She even wanted to change the argument.
06:29In one of the appeals.
06:30That had been the father.
06:31Something that in the criminal process.
06:32It can't be done.
06:33She inserts there.
06:34Another possibility.
06:35The father's.
06:36Now, anyway.
06:37We cannot ignore.
06:38That there is a culture of fascination.
06:39Structured around.
06:40In general.
06:41To criminals.
06:42This happens.
06:43Yes, of course.
06:44Let's see.
06:45It happened with Barreda.
06:46It happened with Pucho.
06:47The film industry feeds on this.
06:48The industry of fiction.
06:49Of non-fiction too.
06:50The cultural industry in general.
06:52Refers to criminals.
06:53Sentenced.
06:54Because they are interested.
06:55In general they are interested.
06:56Not me.
06:57But I say.
06:58In general.
06:59They are.
07:00Artifices.
07:01Of great public interest.
07:02Yes.
07:03And here we want to tell you.
07:04That we had a note.
07:05With the author.
07:06With Vanessa Doglioli.
07:07And today.
07:08Hours before.
07:09A few hours before the program.
07:10She sent us.
07:11This WhatsApp message.
07:12Let's see.
07:13That we are going to share.
07:14There it is.
07:15It says.
07:16Hello.
07:17How are you?
07:18Look.
07:19I just talked to Nair.
07:20And unfortunately.
07:21The note.
07:22We will do it with another program.
07:23She does not want.
07:24That this note.
07:25Be made.
07:26By Mariana's diary.
07:27Thank you anyway.
07:28First.
07:29As you will see.
07:30It went down at 12 and 23.
07:31It would have been good.
07:32To be able to chat with her.
07:33And ask her all this.
07:34In the face.
07:35That I share.
07:36With what you said.
07:37In the opening.
07:38Use the word.
07:39Exile.
07:40To describe the situation.
07:41Of a condemned.
07:42Whose sentence.
07:43It was.
07:44Confirmed.
07:45By the Supreme Court.
07:46Of Justice.
07:47And it has a perpetual sentence.
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