At the Supreme Court argument, the justices homed in on one key question: Can Congress ban a speech platform to stop the Chinese government from manipulating it?
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00:00Today on Forbes, the fate of TikTok is with the Supreme Court.
00:05And could Elon Musk buy it?
00:08Earlier this week, Bloomberg, citing unnamed people familiar with the matter, reported
00:13that Chinese government officials have considered selling TikTok's U.S. operations to Elon
00:18Musk if the Supreme Court does not stop a ban from going through on January 19th.
00:23Though, the people noted the deliberations are preliminary, and that Chinese officials
00:28prefer to keep TikTok under the ownership of China-based developer ByteDance.
00:33Meanwhile, when asked about the Bloomberg report, ByteDance told Forbes it, quote,
00:38can't be expected to comment on pure fiction.
00:42The world's richest person would likely be looking at a price tag similar to what he
00:46paid for Twitter.
00:48Wedbush analyst Dan Ives wrote in a Tuesday note to clients that TikTok parent ByteDance
00:54would likely look for a sum of $40-50 billion for the U.S. operations of the hit app, in
00:59the range of the $44 billion Musk paid in 2022 for Twitter, now known as X, and well
01:06above the roughly $20 billion bid made by the U.S.-led consortium Project Liberty last
01:11week.
01:12Until any sale is confirmed, though, the fate of TikTok in the United States rests with
01:17the Supreme Court.
01:19When Congress passed the law that required TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, to sell
01:23it or see it banned in the U.S., it was partially motivated by the fear that the Chinese government
01:29might use TikTok to contort Americans' discourse, pitting people against one another and eroding
01:34their trust in the democratic systems that define American politics.
01:39Last Friday, at the Supreme Court oral argument that will determine TikTok's fate, Chief Justice
01:44John Roberts made a joke underlining this risk.
01:48He said, quote,
01:49Did I understand you to say, a few minutes ago, that one problem is that ByteDance might
01:53be, through TikTok, trying to get Americans to argue with each other?
01:58He then answered his own question, spurring laughter from the crowd, saying, quote,
02:03If they do, I'd say they're winning.
02:07Foreign governments, including China's, have long run influence operations to try to divide
02:12and propagandize American citizens, and have used social media platforms to do so.
02:17The U.S. government has run similar campaigns abroad, too.
02:21But the TikTok law is the first attempt by the U.S. Congress to directly regulate a social
02:26media platform for the purpose of limiting those influence operations.
02:31This raises a key First Amendment question.
02:34Can the U.S. government, in trying to stop other governments from manipulating speech,
02:39itself manipulate speech by forcing the shutdown of a massively popular platform?
02:45The TikTok bill is not a direct ban.
02:47It gives ByteDance the choice to sell TikTok instead of seeing it banned.
02:52But ByteDance, at least thus far and despite reports this week, has insisted that it will
02:56not sell TikTok.
02:58Instead, it will leave the U.S. market altogether.
03:02If the law does go into effect, TikTok will likely not only disappear from the app stores,
03:06but will also stop working in the United States.
03:10That's because the law would require all the U.S. companies that help keep TikTok online,
03:14from cloud companies hosting TikTok's data to content delivery networks and their providers,
03:19to stop doing so.
03:22There are three ways the justices could stop the law from going into effect on Jan. 19.
03:27They could rule for TikTok and find that the law is unconstitutional.
03:31Or they could issue one of two types of stays, temporarily stopping the law from going into
03:36effect while they deliberate on its fate.
03:39To grant the first type of stay, called a temporary restraining order, the court would
03:43need to find that ByteDance and TikTok are likely to eventually win their case.
03:48But the second type of stay, an administrative stay, would not require the court to take
03:52a position on the merits.
03:54Instead, it would just reflect the court's decision that they need more time to consider
03:59the case.
04:01For full coverage, check out Emily Baker White, Derek Saul, Antonio Pequeño IV, and Meri
04:06Whitfill-Roloff's pieces on Forbes.com.
04:11This is Kieran Meadows from Forbes.
04:14Thanks for tuning in.