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The Celtics delivered a historic blowout win over Toronto, reminiscent of how they crushed teams on the road to Banner 18 last season. A. Sherrod Blakely, Gary Washburn, and Kwani Lunis return for the first time in 2025 to discuss whether the team has turned a corner after their previous poor form.


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00:00The Big 3 NBA podcast is powered by PrizePix and the Game Time app.
00:25Happy New Year, everyone.
00:26This is the Big 3 NBA podcast.
00:28I'm one of your co-hosts, Kwanye Lunas, joined by the usual crew, H-Rod Blakely and Gary
00:33Washburn.
00:34Happy New Year.
00:35Happy New Year, Kwanye.
00:36Happy New Year, Gary.
00:37I'm in the full spirit with my Happy New Year headgear.
00:41Happy New Year, folks.
00:42No one else got the memo, clearly.
00:43Happy 2025.
00:44It's awkward.
00:45Yeah.
00:46It's good to see 2025.
00:47It is.
00:48It's a blessing.
00:49It really is.
00:50It really is.
00:51So now, what are folks having for dinner today?
00:52Great question.
00:54I'm in a hungry mood.
00:55What are your traditions, Gary?
00:56Do you have any food traditions for the New Year?
00:57No, not really.
00:58Not really.
00:59I don't, you know, some people say black-eyed peas.
01:00You always have those on New Year's Eve, but no, don't really have any new traditions.
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26:27I don't know perfectly.
26:28Well, since I'm flapping my gums about your boy Jalen.
26:33Uh, I'm going to appreciate to admit that, that's Quinny's boy.
26:37That's Quinny's boy.
26:38Jalen Brown.
26:39He can do worse.
26:41You can do worse.
26:42The thing about Jalen, the if the one resolution I would have for Jalen Brown for this year
26:50is to just ratchet up his level of locked in this. I think
26:57there are times where he can be uh just not as locked into
27:01everything he should be locked into and that's when you're
27:05reminded as to why people have doubts from time to time about
27:09him. Uh sometimes I think defensively, he doesn't lock
27:12in how he should. Uh other times, I think he doesn't
27:15recognize when he's handling the ball. There's three
27:17defenders in the paint waiting for you. You might want to, I
27:21don't know, pass the ball to someone else because there's at
27:23least one or two people open. Yeah. Just being a little bit
27:26more locked into what he has to do to be great. I think it's
27:30the one resolution I have for him. He's not a bad by no means
27:34is he a bad player now but there's a level that he still
27:37can get to a couple levels. I think he can still get to and
27:40for him to do that, I just think he needs to be a little
27:42bit more locked in more often than he is right now. That's
27:47very fair. Yeah, Jalen, I would say would I would his
27:53rest of my resolution would just to be to tighten up some
27:57of the weaknesses, the free throw shooting. Um you know,
28:01although 73.4% this year, it's a little bit above his career
28:06average uh but just become a better, more consistent free
28:09throw shooter especially in those clutch moments and cut
28:12down on the turnovers and Jalen like he's averaging more
28:18points this year because he's taking more shots. He's
28:20averaging 24.4. This year, he took, he averaged twenty-three
28:24last year but he's um shooting 46% from the field last year.
28:30He shot almost fifty. So, that's because one, he's
28:33shooting more threes but he's shooting lower percentage from
28:36threes until he's not as been as good as the rim at the rim
28:39and on the floaters on the two point shots, right? Fifty-three
28:42percent on twos. He was 57% last year on twos. So, just
28:47some of those little things. I think that what you for Jalen
28:53to be like a top ten player, right? Cuz I think he's in the
28:58top fifteen to get to that top ten plateau. Maybe seven,
29:03eight, whatever cuz you know, you're gonna have the Giannis
29:06and Jokic and Luca and Jason. The defaults. Huh? Like the
29:12defaults and within the top ten. Yeah, like you're you're
29:15gonna you're just you're gonna have guys who are already, you
29:18know, it's it's already cracked the top five at this point. Um
29:21but to get to this, Jalen needs to tighten up on the little
29:24things. It's not the big things. Like, sure, I did point
29:28out his defense. Yes, become a more impactful defender and I
29:32think he's working on that but also be more efficient at the
29:35rim. Um better from the three-point line. Thirty-three
29:39percent is not a good average to to shoot although he's
29:43taking a career high seven a game or sorry, second career
29:46high seven threes a game and then also the free throw
29:50shooting. When you defiled, you want the crowd, your teammates
29:54to have confidence. You don't knock them down, right? And
29:56there's times where Jalen will just kinda miss two especially
30:01sometimes in some key moments where he'll just not thinking
30:03even in the Indiana game early in the fourth quarter, he missed
30:06two free throws. Yeah. He's gotta and it's it's it's not
30:12technique. It's concentration. You know, flipping them up
30:15there. Then, oh, I missed the first and then sometimes doing
30:18a little too much and then trying to guide it to the rim.
30:21Like, there's gotta be a constant motion, a constant
30:26like every time where people, you know, go through their
30:29little rituals uh when the free throw shooting, they lock in or
30:33Derek White does this. So, it's like you gotta have the
30:35same thing all the time and take the same amount of time
30:39and just take a deep breath. If not, that's what makes
30:42shooters like Giannis and throw those guys inconsistent
30:45because they don't always do the right techniques of 100% of
30:49the time. So, for me, for my resolution for Jalen, they just
30:53work on the little things, not the big things, work on the
30:56free throw shooting, taking better care of the ball, little,
31:00you know, he's almost at three turnovers a game, take a little
31:02bit better care of the ball and then also be better at the
31:06rim on those tubes. Alright, the final J who needs some
31:10resolutions made for him is Joe Mazula. What do you two say?
31:14Gary, come on, Gary. That's your boy. You gotta go first
31:18on this one. It's your boy. Um you don't like that. Betsy.
31:27Please. I'm sorry. Don't do that. Oh man. Uh my resolution
31:41for Joe Mazula is to just be probably a slightly bit more
31:45flexible on a few things like, you know, I get the three
31:50point philosophy. I understand it and now they're taking, you
31:53know, fifty-one a game and and that's their thing but there's
31:58gotta be other ways to score and there's gotta be other a
32:01little bit more offensive versatility, a little bit more
32:06like just okay, this ain't working. Let me pivot. Defend
32:12versatility like even defensively the other night,
32:16Christmas night and Caleb Martin isn't just knocking down
32:20defend him differently when you know, it's his night. When
32:24Maxi, it's his night. Instead of going so much on the numbers
32:29and on the percentages and waiting for for the numbers to
32:32hit the mean because eventually, he's not going to
32:35make these because generally, according to the stat sheet, he
32:38doesn't. According to this, he doesn't. That's great most of
32:43the time but there's nights where some guys is just who
32:47they, it's their night. Adjust. Adjust defensively. Guard
32:52Caleb Martin differently when he's hitting after maybe his
32:56third or fourth three. Okay, we've gotta pay him a little
33:00bit more attention. We can't just keep daring him to shoot.
33:03He's going to make them even though he only made eighteen
33:08threes all season. This is his night. I think that sometimes
33:13Missoula can be too rigid on the numbers. He sticks to the
33:18sheet. This is what's usually he usually does. So, this is
33:22what is going to eventually happen but sometimes
33:24eventually never happens in that game. It happens the next
33:28game. You know, you look at guys who kill the Celtics in
33:31the next game. They go back right back to who they were.
33:35You are a special case. You are the Celtics. Teams get up for
33:38you. Teams get a good night's rest. They don't, they ain't
33:41hitting the club. They ain't partying. They ain't going to
33:52the discotheques. It's crazy. They ain't going to the
33:58discotheques the night before the game. They're getting their
34:01rest. They know they have to be ready to play the Celtics and
34:04so you have to adjust and when there are nights where guys are
34:09just hitting shots and that Caleb Martin thing and the
34:13whole well, we want him to shoot those shots. Well, he
34:17wanted to shoot them too because he didn't like them. So,
34:19y'all agree on that. So, sometimes you just got to
34:24adjust. I need Joe to be a little bit more versatile and
34:27how what happens in the game, not before the game, not the
34:32last 30 games during the game, not saying if some guy hits
34:37two threes, oh my god, we gotta double them and get the
34:40ball but if it's a guy who's got three or four threes and
34:43it's just like, okay, this dude's playing different. So,
34:47this is just different adjust as opposed to doing the means and
34:51then sticking to that and then losing with that. You know,
34:55that's that's my you know, New Year's resolution for Joe
35:03Missoula. Just don't be so rigid sometimes with the game
35:06plans. Sometimes just be that guy who says, you know what?
35:11Okay, this is going to this is we're going to change this up a
35:14little bit because I'll show you something. The game after
35:20Caleb Martin. Okay, let's go. Caleb Martin Christmas Day,
35:24eight for eleven from the field, seven for nine from the
35:28three-point line, twenty-three points. You know when she
35:31scored the next game? Five. Seven. Five. Five points. There
35:36you go. Five points. The next game after that, seven. Oh.
35:42Ten to thirty. Yeah. He's hit two three-pointers in 37 and
35:50thirty-five in about 74 minutes of play since the Celtic game.
35:55Two. He said two. He's he's scoring twelve points since
36:00then. After twenty-three against the Celtics. So, it's
36:03a you problem. So, that has to be adjusted. There's certain
36:07guys that just warm up for the Celtics. They get up to play
36:10them. So, you can go on what he did the previous games and all
36:15these he hadn't and in that in the throughout the season, he
36:19hadn't hit more than three threes in the game. So, I get
36:22it. I get Joe saying, well, it's going to end. He's not
36:26going to. It's not that. You gotta adjust sometimes because
36:31you see, it's not like he's on a hot streak for the, it's just
36:34you. So, Joe needs to understand the Celtics are a
36:38team that everybody gets up for. So, adjust accordingly
36:43when guys like him are killing you. Yeah. You know, for for me,
36:50the my resolution for for Joe is is to and again, it's it's
36:54loses at one of the points Gary brought up and that is avoid
36:58the Cinderella effect. I mean, there are guys like Caleb
37:01Martin who have just these amazing games and then, poof,
37:05they go back to being average to below average. You got Joe
37:09needs to become better at end game adjustments. That's the
37:13one resolution I have for him is to improve in that specific
37:16area because if he does that, you know, the Celtics are going
37:20to be not just a better team but they're going to have a
37:22better shot at winning another title. You cannot lean on the
37:26blueprint that won you a championship last year and
37:28anticipate that it will be the same blueprint that will get it
37:30done again. That's not how this league works. You have to
37:34evolve, adapt, adjust, and I think Joe is making progress in
37:38that regard when you look at just some of the the
37:41opportunities that some of those guys at the end of the
37:43bench are getting this year which is very different than
37:46what things how things were a year ago but that being said,
37:50his ability to avoid the Cinderella effect that players
37:53are having on his team, that has to be something he has to
37:56get better at. He has to recognize certain players even
37:59when the numbers suggest otherwise, certain players are
38:03at their best when they play against the Celtics for
38:05whatever reason and they I think need to be a little bit
38:08more. Joe needs to be a little bit more proactive in
38:11recognizing that trying to nip that in the bud before those
38:13guys get going. Give them the kind of respect that they
38:18aren't used to getting because the way they play against you
38:21is not how they usually play. So that to me, that's the big
38:25resolution for Joe Missoula as we go as we hit this 2025 year
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40:05the third. The Celtics will be playing the Rockets, but the
40:09Rockets recently had a little bit of turmoil themselves. I'm
40:13sure you both saw it. If you haven't seen it, you can find
40:16it online. Miami and Houston, the end of that game had a lot
40:20going on and a lot of suspensions and fines were
40:23administered as a result. I'll break them down for you. Amen
40:26Thompson plays for Houston. He had got a two-game suspension.
40:29Terry Rozier, one-game suspension plus a fine. Jalen
40:32Green, Houston, he gets a $35,000 fine. Tyler Hero gets a
40:38$25,000 fine. Ime Udoka, former head coach of the Celtics, also
40:42gets a $50,000 fine for verbally, you know, abusing a
40:46ref and not leaving the court in a timely manner. But all that
40:50to say, a lot went down in that game. Tensions were high. What
40:55did you two think about that entire sequence of events,
40:59really? The person I felt really bad for was Tyler Hero.
41:04Yeah. And I felt bad for Tyler Hero because Tyler basically
41:09got tossed to the ground and then here come the league say,
41:15give me 25 Gs, fool. It's like, damn. You got embarrassed,
41:21tossed to the curb, and then I gotta come out with 25 Gs? I
41:27felt bad for him because at least now, Terry Rozier, if you
41:30go back and you look at the video, Terry got his money's
41:33worth. Terry got his money's worth. Yeah. If you, if you're
41:37gonna be suspended for a couple of games, ain't gonna have to
41:39come out of the pocket. Do what Terry Rozier did. That's how
41:44you're gonna get your money's worth. We don't condone
41:46violence, though. We don't condone violence, but if you
41:49are going to be violent, then you know what? And you know
41:51you're gonna, you know you're gonna have to pay a price for
41:53that. At least get, get, get enough bang for your buck. You
41:57know what I mean? There is, to me, it's one of the biggest
42:01pet peeves coaches have when they get like techs. It's when
42:05they get a tech and they did not get their money's worth. If
42:08they just said like maybe one like, you know, smart alley
42:11comment and they get a tech, it's like, damn, I gotta come
42:13out of the pocket for that. Let me, let me ask an Emay, you
42:18know, as we know, Emay has a certain kind of about him and I
42:27could easily see Emay not doing a whole lot to get under the
42:32ref's skin because when you look at the replay, like it
42:34seemed that Emay was like looking for clarification on
42:37what the heck just happened and I just remember him saying
42:40something to the ref and the ref looking at him, it was like
42:43beep, bye bye Emay. So maybe he said the magic word, but I
42:47think it was probably the tone that he used more so than the
42:50actual words. But the bottom line is this, Houston has got
42:56some dogs in them and it starts from the top with Emay and they
43:00are not about, they are one of the few teams that truly is
43:04about that life. In fact, Terry Rozier probably should be on
43:07Houston Rockets right now. He would be a better fit on their
43:10team than he was in Miami. Yeah. He is, he is more built
43:13the way Emay type player than, than others. And so, you know,
43:19the bottom line is this, Houston is a, is a feisty team.
43:22They are not backing down from no one and they felt, you know,
43:26that Miami was just trying to, you know, embarrass him a
43:28little bit and they weren't trying to have that. Uh even if
43:31it's and it's, it doesn't have to be, you know, this superstar
43:34player. They are clearly a team that is willing to fight
43:39literally uh to be one of the best teams in NBA. Yeah. Um
43:47Toronto said a lot of it. I mean, Hero kind of got thrown
43:51like a ragdoll. For twenty-five thousand. Yeah. Amen
43:55Thompson. Amen Thompson. I think it's a men Thompson. Um
44:00you know, just kind of snapped. I mean, if they were, I think
44:03the, it seemed like from looking at the game, like Houston
44:07led most of the way and then Miami made this fourth quarter
44:11run. Yup. And caught him and Hero was kind of getting
44:15buckets and I just think there was a level of frustration
44:17there. Um and then I got like like Rosier looked at what
44:23happened. He was about to inbound the ball and he was
44:26just like, oh, fight. Boom. He just like jumped right into it.
44:30Like he he he had no hesitation. Um or whatever but
44:36you know, it's just one of those things. These guys, I
44:38mean, we talk about the the jersey swapping and these dudes
44:42all playing AAU. Oh god. Uh scary Terry Sandals. Uh that's
44:48what we need in this our life. Um we talk about the the the
44:53jersey swapping and these guys are too close and then all the
44:57old heads, the Rick Mahorns, and Charles Barkley's, them
45:00dudes are too nice to each other and they hanging out
45:02after the game and then we can't complain when these dudes
45:05go at each other because that's kind of how it was back in the
45:08day and you know and so I think I don't think this needs to be
45:13celebrated but I do think that there needs to be more like
45:18guys who just say, you know what? I'll be be upset about
45:22things and and don't don't know you're not going to do this
45:25and that's why I think the Celtics should be like the one
45:28thing that Marcus Smart brought was like y'all ain't getting
45:31away with this like Marcus Marcus was there to throw
45:34hands or getting somebody's face and that's why I think
45:37sometimes they need to be a little bit tougher in that
45:40sense. Not somebody on their butt when they're, you know,
45:43coat boasting or you know, when Tyrese Max, he yells at the
45:47bench, get this dude out of here when he's talking about
45:49Sam Howe talking, talking mess to the bench like it needs to
45:52be somebody who's like, alright, I got you, bro. I got
45:55you do that again and you know, like and and I just think this
46:00is kind of indicative sometimes. So, I'm not saying
46:02fight is fights are not good but it's good to see some of
46:06these young guys go at each other and not all be buddies
46:08and and swapping each other's shoes and swapping jerseys and
46:13you know, I mean, let's be honest. I mean, it's just we
46:16think the NBA is too chummy and people then people, oh,
46:19this is why people don't watch the NBA like no, I mean, it's
46:23like there's some guys that that are willing to throw
46:26hands and willing to to defend their teammates and I think
46:29that's good. So, I don't think it's good to fight but I also
46:33think, you know, and I don't think it's also not good to
46:36push a guy or or try to hurt him when he's getting in your
46:40**** in terms of buckets like sometimes you just, it's not
46:43your night. Sometimes, I mean, Tyler Hero can get buckets.
46:48Okay, he scored on many of a player. Okay, that's what he
46:51does. That's all pretty much what he does. Now, he's
46:53defending nobody or or or shut nobody down on that side. His
46:58job is to score and there's going to be nights where the
47:01shot is not going down. We've seen Jason do it. Jalen do it.
47:05We've seen Derek White get thirty points like sometimes
47:08it's your night. You can't get all upset when some dude is
47:11busting your **** So, you know, but I thought it was good to
47:16see the guys. Some of these guys aren't always partying and
47:20going to discotheque with each other and and and swapping
47:25shoes and training jerseys and jerseys. Alright, two more
47:29notes to storylines to follow around the NBA. The first one I
47:33want to get to is the Lakers acquired at Dorian Finney
47:36Smith for D Low. Good or bad move or move for the Lakers.
47:41Good and bad or for the Lakers. What do you think? What do you
47:45what do you think Gary? I mean, you know, everybody blames D
47:51Low and I mean in in D'Angelo Russell's a guy who is very
47:57He's just a guy like he was, you know, he's one of those
48:00dudes that was like a a major prospect as a high school
48:04player and he's a one and done in Ohio State and you know, he
48:08comes into the league and now people just don't associate him
48:11with winning. He's just a guy who people think, oh, you like,
48:15you know, the whole thing he got into years ago with Nick
48:17Young and kind of racking it out. Yes. And and that didn't
48:22help his reputation and then the one year, you know, he
48:25played all-star ball level and he made the all-star game when
48:28he's with the Brooklyn Nets. So, he's back there but you
48:31know, D'Angelo just isn't a winning player and now, you
48:35know, it's it's one thing. Oh, he's a young guy. Well, he's
48:38twenty-seven now like that's kind of who you are. You know,
48:41maybe down the road, he gets to a winning situation. He
48:45becomes a better, more, less selfish player and a more smart,
48:49a more intelligent player on the floor with his IQ but it's
48:53just kind of indicative of just the disappointment of that
48:55guy. I got a number two overall pick. I mean, that like that
48:58dude is supposed to be a cornerstone somewhere. Him,
49:00Brandon Ingram, you look at the Lakers, the guys that they
49:03took and they wasted pretty much. Brandon Ingram, D'Angelo
49:07Russell, Julius Randall, and and those guys have had nice
49:12careers and things like that but none of them have ever have
49:15been like like that guy. Although, you know, Randall's
49:19a couple of all-star games, you know, but Russell is blah and
49:24then, you know, can Dorian is Dorian Finney Smith going to
49:27make them a championship team? Absolutely not. Like, they need
49:31something else. Like, they just got LeBron who happy if happy
49:36birthday to LeBron. I'm going to be being funny when I say
49:38happy fortieth. It's amazing what he's done. Fortieth
49:41birthday still playing a high level but I'll I'll watch some
49:45of the game last night against Cleveland like he was just like
49:48I'm going to pass tonight. Like, I don't have the energy
49:52to be like forty and twenty LeBron anymore, right? I don't
49:55have that energy. Like, I'm going to distribute. If I need
49:58to score and we need a bucket, I'm going to attack the rim
50:01with my size and get to the rack and get to the line to
50:04score but I'm going to set y'all up and they were kept
50:06missing threes and you know, Cleveland ended up pulling
50:10away but it's just him AD, you know, Austin Reeves is a nice
50:16player. Like, they're just a bunch of guys. Like, they
50:20don't, there's nothing that says championship team even
50:23with Dorian Finney Smith. I mean, you guys are like a major
50:26move for them to be a championship team and so I
50:29don't see it. I'm mad. Like, that's a nice move. You got
50:34D out of there because obviously, I don't think they
50:37were a big fan of D and D still never really matured but you
50:41know, is that going to make y'all is Oklahoma City like, oh
50:45my god, guys, the Lakers acquired Dorian Finney Smith.
50:49We need, is that scaring people around the west? No. No. No. I
50:55mean, he he makes them better. I, a better fit than than
50:59D'Angelo but that doesn't move the needle as far as them being
51:02a title contender. I mean, the Lakers to me, best case
51:05scenario for them is like making the playoffs. Uh being
51:08one of the last one or two teams like fifth or sixth is to
51:12me, that's, that'll be a great season for them. Um I look at
51:15it more of a playing type team because they just don't have
51:19the horses uh to win against some of those top teams in the
51:23west and you know, LeBron, to be honest, where he's at right
51:28now, he's trying to be more of a facilitator. I think that's
51:30where he can be, have the greatest value. A six, eight,
51:34six, nine, powerful, running your point. I mean, he
51:37basically becomes what people thought Ben Simmons could have
51:40been. Uh LeBron is that if he wants to really play the point
51:44guard position and play well, he can do that but you gotta
51:47have the right talent around him in order to make that
51:49happen because right now, you start looking at the way this
51:51Lakers team is being constructed. They're going to
51:53be a very big, physical, strong, just kind of kick your
51:59**** every day type team but the problem with that is you're
52:04in a league that is about the three ball. You're in a league
52:07where yeah, you might be able to get some buckets around the
52:09rim and you might do some things but if teams are
52:12shooting thirty-five, 40% for three-point range, then the
52:16analytics game starts to be played and then you realize you
52:19might be more physical. You might be able to do some things
52:21uh in terms of around the basket but you're losing by
52:24seven, eight points and then you look and say, oh wow, they
52:26had like fifteen made threes and we had seven. That's that's
52:32what's happening. That's what's going to happen. So, the the
52:35trade is meh, you know, at best but again, if anything, it
52:40just makes them a stronger likelihood of making the
52:45playoffs but not making any noise once they get there. Okay,
52:49final note, Gary, you alluded to it. LeBron James is now 40
52:53years old. Happy birthday to LeBron but do you both think
52:57that he can play another five to 7 years? Are you buying that?
53:01Are you selling it? That's what LeBron said and I am one who
53:07doesn't really buy much of what LeBron says because LeBron, he
53:11you know, he be selling everything and anything. That's
53:13true. But if he says he can, if he thinks he's got another 5
53:17years in him, I'm buying it. I'm buying it because everything
53:20about his career up to this point, he has been able to defy
53:23what makes common logical sense. The calendar says that
53:26he should be done by maybe another year or two. He should
53:30have been done before now but the way that he has gone about
53:35taking care of his body from a physical standpoint is
53:38impressive and there may not ever be an athlete who has
53:41invested to the levels which he's invested in just the
53:44maintenance of his body and so could he play another 5 years?
53:50I think he could. Could he play another 5 years at a high
53:53level? I don't think so. I think he becomes you know, if
53:57he's in the league 5 years from now, those last year, that last
54:00year or two, he may be on what I would call the Udonis. I was
54:05just thinking that. Yeah. You know, where you are on the
54:08active riser but you ain't all that active. Yeah. Uh I mean,
54:12other than other than flapping your gums and and and just you
54:15know, being you know, ML car towel waving mode. That's kind
54:19of what you're going to be doing at that point but can he
54:23do even at that point, you still know that he probably has
54:28a good 2025 point game in him every now and then. Uh he still
54:32could be a guy that can win you a game uh and I think as long
54:35as he has that going for him, as long as he feels he can do
54:39that. Um he's got a shot and and and you know, let's be
54:42honest. He got another son coming up the pipeline who who
54:46was actually a better NBA prospect than Ronnie. Yeah. So,
54:50maybe he's thinking along those lines and maybe he, you know,
54:53have a chance to play with his other son and in that
54:56situation, rather than impact, rather than tell the team that
54:59you with, hey, draft my son. Lebron is going to have to go
55:02with his son is going to go because his son is good enough
55:04to where teams are not going to be passing him by just so he
55:07can play with his dad. They're going to be like, look, he can
55:10help us win games. Yeah. So, if daddy want to play with son,
55:14daddy going to have to come over with son's dad because
55:16son, we we're not going to let that happen. So, that may be
55:20part of what Lebron is is just thinking when he says he he's
55:23five to 7 years in him but I'm buying it. I'm absolutely
55:27buying. He can play in five to 7 years. I don't buy it. Not
55:34because I don't believe in Lebron but I just think 46-year-old
55:39Lebron out there like that. No, no NBA player. I think the the
55:44oldest has been like a forty-three whether it's like a
55:47Robert Parrish or even a Vince Carter. I just think
55:51physically, that's just taxing for an NBA player. This is not
55:56a baseball where you can go out there and pitch, you know, be a
55:59reliever to your forty-five or you can play, you know, like
56:02what's my guy who used to pitch for the Indians, the Latino guy,
56:07a heavyset guy who pitched into his 40s. I have to look his
56:12name up but baseball, you can play well into your 40s. I've
56:17seen it. Football, Tom Brady did it at a high level at
56:22quarterback but you're playing one side of the ball.
56:26Basketball, you already see kind of the slowdown in Lebron
56:31because I mean, obviously, it's twenty-plus years. We're not
56:35even counting like high school. 25 years all on your limbs,
56:40your legs, your ankles, all of the body. Bartolo Cologne is
56:45what I'm talking about. Sorry, it came to my mind but you're
56:49talking about constant pounding playing with guys have
56:53literally now half your age like that's a lot man. That's a
56:58lot and I just said like it like it would have to be on a
57:03limited level like okay Lebron, you're going to play forty
57:06games like do I think if Lebron was on an abbreviated schedule
57:10of forty game per year schedule where you don't have to travel.
57:14Okay, you can play only home games and you get plenty of
57:17rest. Do I think he could play four or five more years? Yes on
57:21like a certain limited program. Low management. Yeah. Yeah.
57:26Like serious like okay, you don't you're playing forty-five
57:30to fifty-five games a year. You're missing thirty games
57:33right out the like you're just not going to play. Yes. So, I
57:37think you can play till he's forty-three forty-four but
57:40eventually the slowdown and I'm not saying we're seeing a
57:44slowdown but eventually he's going to hit a wall like every
57:48body does where he just your your body you can get out there
57:51and look good and your body just says no like yeah, that's
57:57real and we you know and I don't know people might think
58:00that fight was fixed and I probably think it was shady but
58:03like the Mike Tyson. Oh look at look at him. It's always look
58:07at it. Look at it like old Mike. No, like he's he he is
58:10old. Yeah. Yeah. Like he doesn't look like old Mike. He
58:13is old Mike and you know, he just his body wouldn't allow
58:17him to do what his mind was telling him to do and and
58:22that's the thing. It's becomes where your body says no more
58:25man. So, could he play till he's forty-seven? You know, I
58:31said I'm a very limited schedule where he's getting all
58:35this million dollar treatment to to preserve his body and all
58:39that. I can think for four or five more years but not not
58:45seven though. Very very fair. We'll see what that's all to be
58:50determined but before we wrap, I do want to remind you all
58:54about the big three podcasts being nominated for the podcast
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59:26that's all for this episode. The first episode of 2025 of
59:30the big three NBA podcast for HR Weekly. I'm Gary Washburn.
59:33I'm Kwanye Lunas. Happy New Year. We'll be back next week.

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