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00:00 Ooh, now we're into deep water here.
00:04 Oh, I know this one.
00:05 The heartbreak.
00:08 How did I get that wrong?
00:09 I'm so distressed.
00:10 You are all of you beneath me.
00:20 I am a god, you dull creature.
00:22 This is Loki in the Avengers.
00:27 His last immortal line to "The Hulk,"
00:31 unforgettably played by Mark Ruffalo.
00:33 And it's the beginning of a fight,
00:36 which I think it's safe to say Loki definitively loses.
00:41 Enough!
00:42 You are all of you beneath me.
00:45 I am a god, you dull creature.
00:47 I felt insane and foolish,
00:50 and I alternated between insanity and folly all day.
00:54 The effects team and the art department
00:59 had dug out little Loki-shaped trenches in the set.
01:03 My job was to jump in and out of these trenches
01:07 as hard as I can and as high as I can
01:10 to replicate the effect of being smashed.
01:13 I remember specifically after saying this line,
01:16 I am a god, you dull creature,
01:17 and I will not be bullied by an animal,
01:20 we wanted to create the effect of absolute spontaneity.
01:25 Loki had no idea what was coming.
01:26 He was puffed up with all his sense of superiority and status
01:31 and that that would be completely undercut
01:33 by him just being wrenched out of frame.
01:36 And that's exactly what happened.
01:38 Puny god.
01:46 I never wanted the throne.
01:49 I only ever wanted to be your equal.
01:52 This is Loki in Thor.
01:55 I never wanted the throne.
01:59 I only ever wanted to be your equal.
02:03 How would I describe the relationship
02:04 between Loki and Thor?
02:05 Enormously complex and deep.
02:09 Yeah, how long have you got?
02:11 It's been a journey, a journey of a thousand miles.
02:15 Two brothers in the palace of Asgard,
02:18 very close, at the same time opposite.
02:21 I think they probably define themselves
02:22 as brothers as opposites,
02:24 but have grown up with great trust and affection.
02:28 And the heartbreak of the emotional fallout
02:32 between Thor and Loki is that actually,
02:34 as brothers, they were great friends,
02:36 and they're separated by circumstance.
02:38 That circumstance initially is Loki's discovery
02:41 that he is not in fact Thor's brother.
02:44 He was adopted and was an orphan who was left to die.
02:48 And I think Loki feels stricken with grief about that.
02:53 I was cast in 2009 when I was 28.
02:56 So it's been 15 years for both of us,
02:59 and it's been such a pleasure to sit alongside him
03:04 on the rollercoaster of this journey.
03:09 Being cast as Thor and Loki changed our lives forever
03:14 in the most extraordinary and unexpected ways.
03:16 And to be able to have someone
03:18 who was going through the same experience
03:20 has just been in such a comfort, actually.
03:23 Over the years, we've shared so much.
03:24 We've shared so many memories.
03:26 We've made the films in different locations,
03:28 different cities, different states.
03:30 We're good old mates.
03:31 [laughs]
03:33 Now put your shield before your hearts
03:36 and fight with hearts more proof than shields.
03:39 Advance my fellows.
03:41 Henry V.
03:43 [buzzer]
03:44 No.
03:46 Wait.
03:47 Coriolanus.
03:48 [ding]
03:49 How did I get that wrong?
03:50 I'm so distressed.
03:51 I feel like I've let Shakespeare down.
03:55 It's fine.
03:55 He's fine.
03:56 He's long gone.
03:57 Now put your shield before your hearts
04:00 and fight with hearts more proof than shields.
04:03 The biggest difference between acting on film and theater,
04:06 the primary difference is that on stage,
04:11 we are afforded the opportunity
04:14 to play out the entire story,
04:17 the whole alphabet, as it were,
04:19 from A to Z or A to Z.
04:21 And you get to track the arc of the character
04:25 through the story every night.
04:27 And you can feel the propulsive momentum
04:30 that actually drives you consequentially
04:33 through the narrative.
04:36 In film, as an actor, you are drilling down precisely
04:40 and forensically into the detail of a moment every day.
04:44 So you don't experience the whole of the arc
04:48 until you finally see the edit.
04:50 But then also, if you go on stage,
04:53 there's something about the liveness of the event,
04:56 that you're doing it live, and it's all happening now.
05:01 And it won't be the same tomorrow.
05:03 And that also keeps you sharp in a different way.
05:05 So I love being able to do both.
05:07 I feel like it keeps me honest, in a way, as an actor.
05:11 I promise you, man to man, that I'll look after him
05:16 as closely as you've done.
05:17 I'll respect him and all the care you've taken with him.
05:21 And if I can, I'll return him to your care.
05:24 That's the second bit.
05:26 That is Captain James Nichols in "War Horse."
05:30 Yeah, love that scene.
05:31 I promise you, man to man, that I'll look after him
05:35 as closely as you've done.
05:37 I'll respect him and all the care that you've taken with him.
05:41 That experience was one of the most special
05:44 and one of the most memorable of my working life.
05:48 And I'll just never forget being
05:51 on this magnificent Spanish stallion in uniform
05:55 with a double rein and a single hand,
06:00 calling the orders of the charge
06:02 as they would have done back in 1914.
06:05 [men shouting]
06:07 Leading a phalanx of horses.
06:13 It was the most electrifying and thrilling experience
06:15 of my whole life.
06:16 I assure you, brother, the sun will shine on us again.
06:22 The heartbreak.
06:27 That's Loki in "Avengers Infinity War,"
06:30 in the opening scene where Loki tries to distract.
06:34 Thanos.
06:35 I assure you, brother, the sun will shine on us again.
06:40 I knew about this scene, I think,
06:42 three years before I came to be on set.
06:46 I remember going over to Marvel
06:48 and talking to Kevin Feige and Luis D'Esposito.
06:51 In that meeting at Marvel,
06:53 as I was hearing the story of Ragnarok for the first time,
06:56 Joe and Anthony Rousseau came in
06:59 and they were in early development
07:00 for "Avengers Infinity War."
07:02 And they said, "We're still drilling down
07:05 "on the details of the script,
07:06 "but we know what the opening scene is."
07:09 The opening scene is Loki in a 1V1 with Thanos
07:13 and trying to save his brother Thor, who is in diastrates.
07:16 It's the final curtain.
07:21 And the reason we know that's the first scene
07:24 is we know that it will be very shocking to the audience
07:27 and we want the audience to be truly invested
07:31 in Thanos' capacity for evil.
07:33 I understood that, and so I knew that the approach
07:36 through Ragnarok was going to culminate in this moment.
07:39 And it was a big day.
07:42 I checked into my hotel and within an hour or two,
07:45 I run into Josh Brolin, who could not have been kinder.
07:49 He enveloped me in this enormous hug.
07:51 He was like, "I'm so sorry.
07:54 "I'm so sorry."
07:55 Then there was a big round of applause
07:56 and everybody said, "Congratulations and well done
07:59 "and thank you.
07:59 "Come and see us anytime.
08:01 "You'll always be part of the family."
08:03 But, you know, just when you think it's
08:05 never say never again, basically.
08:07 I'm still, I'm like sitting here going,
08:14 "I can't believe I got Coriolanus wrong."
08:16 [laughs]
08:17 I know, I know, I know.
08:19 Let me list all the ways you're gonna die.
08:21 Rain, heat, mud, disease, oh, I know this one.
08:25 Disease carrying flies and mosquitoes.
08:27 James Conrad, "Kong, Skull Island."
08:31 Let me list all the ways you're gonna die.
08:33 Rain, heat, mud, disease carrying flies and mosquitoes.
08:37 I feel like so many movies have explored
08:40 like what would we be like
08:41 if we were stuck on a desert island.
08:43 I love "Cast Away."
08:44 It's one of my favorite films.
08:46 And I think the thrill of watching Tom Hanks in "Cast Away"
08:48 is you think, well, how would I get on?
08:51 Would I be able to spear some fish for food?
08:54 Would I be able to start a fire?
08:57 Would I make a friend of Wilson?
08:59 I mean, I'm worried that I'd be hopeless, actually.
09:03 And I'd get dehydrated and overwhelmed and sunburned
09:07 and then wander into the ocean and get eaten by a shark.
09:10 You're nothing but a spoiled child.
09:12 Ooh.
09:14 Now we're into deep water here.
09:18 You're nothing but a spoiled child.
09:21 [sighs]
09:23 Thomas Sharp, "Crimson Peak."
09:25 [bell dings]
09:26 Phew.
09:27 You're nothing but a spoiled child.
09:29 I just was previously doing Coriolanus
09:33 at the Donmar Warehouse in London.
09:34 He came to London and we worked together
09:38 and he was extraordinary.
09:40 He had written biographies of each character.
09:45 It's like a novella of the character
09:50 and their life before the film.
09:52 So you've suddenly got a biography which is so rich
09:56 and has so much detail.
09:57 Guillermo's gift is total.
09:59 His mastery of the medium is absolute.
10:01 His attention to detail, his precision, his generosity,
10:05 his good humor.
10:06 It's one of the happiest sets I've been on.
10:08 Strangely for a film with so much pain in it,
10:11 we laughed all the time.
10:12 Greetings and salutations.
10:15 You'll forgive me, I've been mixing grain and grappa.
10:18 "Midnight in Paris."
10:19 [bell dings]
10:20 I almost did it in the voice.
10:21 Greetings and salutations.
10:22 F. Scott Fitzgerald.
10:25 Greetings and salutations.
10:26 You'll forgive me, I've been mixing grain and grappa.
10:30 Owen is the best.
10:31 He's just the absolute best.
10:33 We have a similar taste in things.
10:35 We both like tennis and poetry
10:39 and great stories and movies.
10:42 And we kind of just riff around that, I suppose.
10:45 And he's also, I think it was worth saying,
10:47 just a fantastic writer.
10:49 His contribution to "Loki" seasons one and two,
10:53 he brings his own precision and insight to every scene.
10:58 Okay.
10:59 I see a scheme, and in that scheme, I see myself.
11:02 Episode two of season one of "Loki."
11:07 [bell dings]
11:08 I see a scheme, and in that scheme, I see myself.
11:13 My goodness, what have I learned about playing Loki?
11:16 Change is possible.
11:18 The growth is necessary.
11:22 And that in order to become the best version of yourself,
11:27 you have to make peace with your past.
11:29 You have to confront your mistakes,
11:34 acknowledge your failures,
11:36 and only then are you in control of your destiny.
11:40 It feels like we constructed the series
11:42 as a story in two volumes, season one and season two.
11:46 And I feel very happy with the narrative conclusion
11:51 of season two.
11:52 I feel like, as Mobius says,
11:54 sometimes purpose is more burden than glory.
11:57 And Loki's found his purpose after all,
12:01 which is to commit himself to protecting the lives of others
12:06 by holding the timelines together.
12:08 Where we go from here, I don't know.
12:10 I really don't.
12:11 He's listening.
12:12 He's watching.
12:14 That's all I know for now.
12:15 [upbeat music]
12:18 [upbeat music]
12:21 [upbeat music]
12:23 (upbeat music)