Join CLNS Media's Taylor Kyles as he welcomes 98.5 The Sports Hub and Patriots Beat host Alex Barth to Patriots Daily to react to the Patriots cuts as their 53 man roster takes shape.
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00:00 know him Alex Barth. Alex we got quite a bit to talk about today obviously finally got news on
00:06 roster cuts we know what the fifty three actually looks like now. I know that you're actually
00:10 working on a piece about the twenty eighteen draft though which I'm pretty. Twenty twenty two.
00:14 Twenty twenty two I'm sorry twenty twenty two. So there's so many numbers in my head right now.
00:18 I wish twenty eighteen was just a year ago that'd be a good time.
00:20 Wouldn't it? So before we get into depth on each of the positions we're just gonna go through each
00:25 one and see what each of our takes are. What are your thoughts exactly on the twenty twenty two
00:29 draft. So I think you know this has kind of been the one of the big overarching takes today is that
00:36 oh you know look at this all these guys are getting cut from twenty twenty two so of their ten picks
00:41 five got cut or traded in the last two days all on offense and a six I think is going to be out
00:48 for an extended period of time coming up with Ty Quintor and we'll see if he ends up on IR
00:53 and so a lot of people want to jump down the you know Patriots can't draft
00:58 rabbit hole which fine let me preface this by saying I tweeted this out today
01:02 and I was accused of making excuses this is not excuses this is context I am not
01:07 excusing them for having a bad draft I am explaining why and how they had a bad draft
01:12 and I think it's important to remember like I never judge drafts in hindsight I think it's stupid
01:19 you can only go with the information you have at the time so let's go with the information
01:23 the Patriots had at the time where were the Patriots heading into the draft last year
01:28 Matt Patricia was replacing Josh McDaniels taking over the offense they were getting ready to
01:32 install that Shanahan West Coast zone based thing whatever that was so you look at who they drafted
01:39 Taekwon Thor especially you know in the in the top 150 picks Cole Strange Taekwon Thornton
01:44 Pierre Strong Bailey's happy these are guys happy a little bit less but the other three
01:49 these are all guys that were drafted to play in a Shanahan zone based offense right well what
01:56 happened that completely fell apart it didn't even make it through the season the the offense
02:00 was shelved and so now you look at you know how can they give up on a guy like Pierre Strong this
02:06 early why can't Taekwon make any headroom why are we so concerned about Cole Strange
02:11 because they reached on players expecting the system to elevate those players they felt these
02:18 guys will be more of a sure thing here because we're playing them into their strengths and then
02:24 they didn't end up doing that I would have liked to see them give Pierre Strong a chance in their
02:29 new offense because I think he has some abilities that would carry over I would like to see tight
02:35 well we saw Taekwon Thornton get a chance a new offense it didn't really work I Cole Strange the
02:39 book still out I thought he really could have used this summer to improve and he didn't get
02:45 that because of injury and he told us today he gained weight he's up to 308 pounds which for
02:50 a guard in their new offensive system is not a lot so I just think it's really interesting to
02:56 look at that I don't think this is people are linking it to the drafts in 17 18 and 19.
03:02 I think it's different those drafts to me were more they were drafting very much for the here
03:09 and now there was very little future outlook they took a bunch of high floor low ceiling players
03:14 banking on Brady to elevate and then Brady left and you lost that element this is different this
03:20 is and this is something I've said and I said this on Patriots beat with with Brian with Brian
03:25 Hines last week when when Pierre Strong got traded and people kind of jumped to me in the comments
03:30 because I'm somebody who's gotten on Matt Patricia people say it's it's just what I used to excuse
03:35 Matt Jones whatever I was not exaggerating last year when I said Matt Patricia set them back years
03:40 and you're seeing that now because you have a whole draft that and look some of these guys
03:48 will be back to be back on the practice squad maybe even get back on the active roster Tyco
03:52 on Thornton get healthy at some point but you're seeing a whole draft that could end up essentially
03:56 being a wash because they were drafted to play in an offense that they're never going to end up
04:00 playing it because that offense itself was never going to end up working because they had to get
04:04 rid of it so that there's two even the big story today which is zappy is kind of folded into that
04:10 2022 draft and I think there's other things with zappy beyond the offensive system where it comes
04:17 to how the quarterback position was handled last year in Patricia and Belichick's handling of that
04:21 that you're seeing the coaching and it's beyond Patricia I'm bringing up Patricia because he's
04:26 the face of what the offense was but it's obviously just as much on Bill he's the one
04:30 who ultimately made the decisions to put the people in charge who were in charge you're seeing
04:34 the coaching decisions of last year have a lasting impact and I think that to me is the big story
04:40 of today's roster cuts and we're going to address all these players in the in terms of the system
04:45 right now but I will say so Bailey's happy one you know we're going to talk about I guess we
04:49 kind of start with quarterback here and release trace me sorely that was pretty straightforward
04:53 we all knew that was going to happen Malik Cunningham I think he was someone where we
04:56 were debating is he going to make the roster he's going to be in the practice squad I personally had
04:59 him on the practice squad because they seem to be either seriously considering him a wide receiver
05:04 or they were hiding him as a quarterback because he wouldn't have drafted for a reason they gave
05:08 him a big siding bonus so clearly they wanted him but I think the big difference maker if he was to
05:14 be poached off the practice squad would have been if team saw that he could really throw I think
05:18 there was enough of that that it moved the needle where he's a legitimate candidate to get poached
05:22 so I think he's going to be on the practice squad Bailey's happy we've seen him struggle
05:26 significantly with the progressions in Bill O'Brien's offense we see him hold on to the ball
05:30 it seems like his confidence but shaken because the accuracy has been pretty inconsistent especially
05:34 once the pads came on when you talk about the shenanigans system it's relatively easy for
05:39 quarterbacks because it doesn't ask them to do a whole lot like you look at Jimmy Garoppolo
05:43 an astounding number of his throws especially downfield crossing routes like the shenanigans
05:47 system is notorious for quarterbacks not really having to make those downfield throws to the
05:51 sidelines it's a very quarterback friendly system we saw last year with Bailey's happy in that type
05:56 of system where it was kind of like all right turn your brain off don't make a mistake and
06:00 make the throws out of there he was fine he looked good so much so that people thought that Mac Jones
06:04 might have been a problem and wasn't really someone who should have been in that leadership
06:08 role as a starting quarterback now we're seeing Bill O'Brien where he really gives his quarterbacks
06:13 the keys of the kingdom and says okay you can make the adjustments you need to be able to read what
06:17 the defense is doing i will put you in position to succeed you need to be able to do all the work
06:21 post snap and make the right decisions and that's not really where Bailey's happy thrives so
06:26 relative to the quarterback position i think you were spot on where i think after what we've seen
06:30 in the preseason there's not a huge risk of Bailey's happy maybe getting poached because
06:34 he didn't put a lot of good tape out in the past few games yeah i still don't love it i get where
06:39 the and do people freaking out about this they did this before they did this in 2021 with Brian
06:44 Horner now it's a little different or didn't have to go through waivers but i i think Ian Rapport
06:50 reported earlier that he thinks zappy is going to get claimed for that reason i don't love it i i
06:54 still think for all his warts this summer here's the problem with with the Bailey's happy discourse
07:01 in New England you either had to believe he was actually the starter and better than Mac Jones
07:05 or you had to believe he sucked it in belonging to the league and in the reality he's in the
07:09 middle he's a good backup quarterback i i've said from the beginning i think he's somewhere between
07:14 the 30th and 35th best quarterback in the NFL so very low-end starter high-end backup i think Mac
07:20 is probably in the 12 to 20 range right now for reference that's pretty fair yep i i mean i i
07:27 think zappy gets claimed they had a good backup they had him on a rookie contract i don't think
07:32 they need to do this who did they get on the roster to do this Sean Wade you probably could
07:36 have gotten Sean Wade through waivers i really get Sean Wade through waivers before you get
07:40 Bailey's happy through waivers um who are some of the other guys that that uh might get there
07:46 that made the team i'm i'm blanking on the top of my head off the um going through really quick
07:50 i don't like Sam Roberts uh Sam Roberts is a guy i think you could have gotten through waivers and
07:54 mere speeds a guy i think you could have gotten through waivers absolutely that's probably the
07:58 list because the other thing you got to remember here is you just burned Bailey's happy's rookie
08:02 contract he's now a free agent if he comes back so i don't as rough as of a summer as Bailey's
08:09 happy had i don't love the idea that they essentially just threw away backup quarterback
08:14 security for the next three years i get that but i also do think that considering what we saw from
08:19 Bailey's happy if something happened to Mac i think they would have been better off and i don't know
08:23 what the veteran market is like from their perspective and who they're trying to bring in
08:27 but considering what Bill O'Brien asks of his quarterbacks i do think that a veteran would
08:31 probably be better in that backup role than someone like a Bailey's happy and we even heard
08:35 that they're trying to get trace mcsourly back in some capacity i don't personally love that i don't
08:40 think in terms of throwing ability and you know consistency he's an nfo quarterback but you know
08:45 with the zappy thing i understand to a degree especially because and we'll talk about this as
08:49 well there were so many positions where they had to really stock guys up like you talk about
08:53 offensive line they have 11 offensive linemen no one had that in their projection because 11 is a
08:58 crazy number to have but because of all their injuries it kind of screwed them and then you
09:02 look at quarterback as well now it's a little different because i think amir speeds more of
09:05 a specialist but he still can't play cornerback he's more like a brandon bolden where you're
09:09 gonna see mostly on special teams but if something happens he can't play cornerback
09:13 so there were certain positions where they had more bodies than i think people expected
09:17 and i guess they looked at it and were like hey i mean we got to keep people at other positions
09:21 this is something we're willing to risk uh but let's move on to running back so i'm not keeping
09:25 you all night uh they only kept two guys i would just say one thing on that last point if they are
09:30 going to go veteran there's only two guys they should call colt mccoy and aj mccarran that's
09:35 pretty much the whole list if if hoyer becomes free i i think him as well but he's in in vegas
09:40 what i would this is going to happen but this would be one of the funniest things
09:43 that like i would laugh my ass off uh ain't o'connell's out play jimmy garoppolo
09:49 in las vegas yeah give me jimmy garoppolo to back up mac jones i like it you actually made a lot of
09:55 good points about aji mccarran there's the alabama connection there's a little brian connection he's
09:59 a fantastic fit uh so running backs only kept two ty montgomery was released i think we all expect
10:05 that once people are put on injured reserve short term he's going to be coming back because they're
10:09 not going in the season with two running backs that's insane uh jj taylor was waived and according
10:13 to karen griegian he's probably looking for greener pastures elsewhere somewhere where you can
10:17 actually have a role because he's been pretty much a career practice squad guy then kevin harris
10:22 another guy i think we expect to be back on the practice squad cj maribel you know we didn't
10:27 really see much any surprises any big takeaways from what happened at that position i the jj
10:33 taylor thing interests me and karen gregan reported that he doesn't necessarily want to
10:36 come back on the practice squad he wants to go somewhere that he's going to have a chance to play
10:40 i wonder if he thought that before seeing all the cuts because if he comes back on the practice squad
10:48 he's the next guy up he's the third guy probably be game day elevation i wonder if maybe now he'd
10:54 be more receptive to coming back or even if maybe knowing that he feels that way and only having two
11:00 running backs on the roster if after somebody's i-r whether it's taekwon thornton or rather the
11:05 reef i think these are the two guys that are the obvious um are the obvious picks he actually gets
11:11 signed to a 53-man roster spot you don't think what do you think it's on montgomery you think
11:15 he's actually gone i yeah i you can't trust him it's just tough you can't trust him because he
11:21 doesn't stay healthy what are you doing so i think maybe they bring him back on the practice squad
11:26 he's just such a risky guy to um to count on given his injury i'll i'll i just want to pull this up
11:36 real quick to go back to it because it's a point a lot of people miss and i confirmed this with pat
11:40 cap earlier when you wave somebody you cut him so he gets claimed on waivers he keeps his rookie
11:46 deal talking about zappy otherwise it's if you sign to the practice squad he's signed to a new
11:50 contract if you then elevate him to the practice squad he gets a new contract maybe he agrees to a
11:55 three-year deal a little money and and it's whatever but his rookie contract's gone that is
12:01 gone if they sign to the practice squad at the end of the year he becomes a free agent he would have
12:05 to sign a futures deal or like kevin harris last season they burned his rookie deal because he
12:10 ended up on the practice squad so that like that that's why sometimes you see teams keep certain
12:16 rookies even if it doesn't make sense that's why i've talked about this taylor and i know we're
12:19 going to get to the offensive line but they handcuff themselves in this draft they took
12:23 three offensive linemen in the top 150 you can't cut those guys you can't burn those contracts
12:27 that's poor asset management and i'm not saying cutting bailey's app you're trading pierce strong
12:31 was good asset management but they put themselves in a position where they had to make a bad asset
12:36 management move yeah i thought that jake andrews was somebody who might have ended up on injured
12:40 reserve because he's not going to play this season like he's i don't even know if he's necessarily
12:44 the top backup center because ferentz is basically the terminator he's always going to be back um i
12:50 don't think he'd really want to he made the team very quietly didn't he i think he got cut didn't
12:54 he oh did he yeah james ferentz is just kind of in the background he's always sort of in the
12:58 background he'll be back on the practice squad yeah 100 so yeah i don't see that jake andrews
13:03 comes back but we'll get to that later as well wide receiver pretty much what we expected
13:07 considering kashaan booty did only played one drive against the titans it seemed like he had
13:12 done enough in camp and with that great play against the packers that he was someone they
13:16 weren't going to risk putting on waivers this one's pretty straightforward season ending injured
13:20 reserve for train nixon and they waived thyrac pitts any big takeaways there i'm just glad they
13:26 kept them all i'm really glad because we'll i'm not sold yet on case and honestly i'm not entirely
13:31 sold on demario douglas like they're nfl players to what extent i don't know no but i mean like
13:36 the people who are like demario douglas thousand yard season like yeah of course they're nfl players
13:41 to what extent i don't know right are they top of the depth chart guys are the middle of the depth
13:46 chart guys are the emergency guys they both belong in the nfl and that's not nothing how many wide
13:50 receivers of the patriots drafted last few years that didn't even belong in the nfl like i already
13:55 feel better about both these guys than i ever felt about nikki l harry but and the night oh sorry
13:59 you know but but i'm just so the point is like you still got to see what they are i they made
14:04 enough progress though that i don't think the patriots could afford to walk away from them
14:07 because if you cut kashaan booty and he goes somewhere else and he's a guy you're going to
14:13 be kicking yourself for a team that can't develop that can't find riders here so me and evan have
14:17 this this developed we never even planned this this kind of became a thing just in the way we talk
14:21 when we talk about players sometimes a player is a guy and sometimes the player is a dude right we
14:29 refer some players as guys refer some players as dudes uh kashaan booty demario douglas both guys
14:34 i'm not ready to say either one's a dude yet i'm not saying they can't be i think they both totally
14:38 could be dudes yeah we got to find out i'm just really glad we're going to find out here rather
14:44 than have them go somewhere else and find out kind of like a braxton barrios thing right a guy that
14:48 let her um who are some of the other ones i was talking to bob sosi about this today he really
14:52 oh kenny more kenny more is another one remember kenny more was a weird situation though because i
14:57 don't think he likes being on the team like he is not sitting here but right but the idea like
15:02 i'm glad it's not one of those situations i'm glad those guys are here and the patriots are going to
15:07 give them the chance in their uniform to figure out if they're dudes or not because if even one of
15:11 them is it's a game changer and they're in good position that's what i was going to say because
15:16 they don't have to be dudes right away i like i really like this depth chart because they have
15:20 parker born in juju three reliable veterans you baseline know what they are kendrick born looks
15:26 like he's in line for a career year looking like their best separator like he could be i don't want
15:31 to say a high volume guy quite yet but i mean if he keeps producing like this and the way they're
15:36 running their system it's very possible so demario douglas and caisson booty are going to be asked to
15:40 have big roles it's mixed them in see what they can do if they can handle a certain workload all
15:45 right we'll see what else they can handle and kind of ease them in so i really like where they are
15:49 there especially considering the tight end position i think even though it's just two guys
15:53 it's well stocked you got hunter henry mike kasicki who shed his red nine contact jersey
15:58 so he's pretty much a full go um in terms of that aspect they released anthony first sir he wasn't
16:04 at practice i thought he was a guy who was almost a practice squad lock unless he wanted to go
16:09 somewhere else um because he's a veteran he's not subjected to waiver so he can kind of do whatever
16:13 he wants hoping he'll be back because i like that he gave them kind of a chess piece element there
16:18 they waived matt sokol he doesn't have any accrued seasons another guy i think is very likely to end
16:23 up on the practice squad they got rid of scotty washington and johnny lumpkin as well on waivers
16:27 i wasn't that surprised scotty he hasn't really done much he's really like a geseke where he's
16:32 pretty much a receiver he's not really a tight end um but hasn't been consistent catching the ball
16:37 a lot of bobbles and things like that and johnny lumpkin i just didn't think he showed as much as
16:41 a blocker as you would want from somebody who's essentially a mike williams type where he's
16:46 like you know a couple cheeseburgers away from being an offensive tackle not to be condescending
16:49 but like he's a really big dude not really a receiver any takes there no not really i i
16:57 they'll elevate these tight ends they'll have a third tight end on game day believe it but it
17:00 always felt like they were going to be able to get those guys to practice squad that's that day
17:03 it's kind of like the same thing i was saying was happy like that's spot where if they used up a spot
17:07 you didn't need to do that i will say those zack coots got cut so i would like to see them
17:12 add another tight end maybe to that that is interesting i didn't know about that okay
17:16 um so i'm looking at just my roster i separate tackle and interior offensive lines probably
17:23 stupid considering how much they mix and match um but you know i like to break down the situation so
17:28 offensive tackle trent brown calvin anderson who's back seemed like he was in great spirits we got to
17:33 talk to him in the locker room seems like a very sweet guy um he was talking about how grateful he
17:39 was and how much he valued the opportunity now that he's got new perspective really glad to see
17:43 him off the non-football injury list interesting thing there we can talk about that how the tackle
17:48 situation is going to work out when he comes back um and then as well city so tyrone wheatley jr who
17:53 they traded peer strong for from the browns and vaderian low who they got from the vikings for a
17:58 sixth round pick season ending injured reserve you got connor mcdermott that seemed pretty likely
18:03 especially after they traded for the two young tackles and the fact that we haven't seen mcdermott
18:06 in a while and then on waivers we had andrew stuber who matt grow and belichick have said he's
18:12 essentially a rookie uh and i don't think he was put in a very good position quite frankly because
18:16 he's clearly not an nfl left tackle uh he's probably more of a white tackle or a guard
18:20 and mike vancipool he seemed more like a camp body but how do you think this tackle situation
18:25 is going to shake out considering calvin anderson most of his career has been a left tackle he's
18:30 looked at his best when he's at left tackle and trump brown can play both and has liquid
18:34 at right tackle so what is going on there in your opinion i think their plan and i think their plan
18:40 since the spring has been to just bring in as many pieces as possible bring in as many players as
18:45 possible and you know if everybody has a 20 chance at panning out then if you bring in five guys you
18:52 got 100 chance you're going to find somebody it's a fallacy but like if you're going to throw it
18:57 throw things against the wall and see what sticks the more things you throw the higher chance one of
19:00 them sticks and it feels like that's where they're at you know we hear bill belichick talk a lot about
19:04 how september's a continuation of the preseason we're going to see it with this offensive line i
19:08 think you're going to see moving pieces i think they're going to keep trying things and they're
19:11 going to keep working to find that that best five and they've given themselves as many options as
19:15 possible we'll see what happens with riley reef i think this number ends up coming down like it
19:18 does a wide receiver i think taekwondo ends up on ir i think riley reef ends up on ir yeah but
19:24 yeah they're they're just going to experiment so they're giving themselves options i do like
19:28 fedarian low i liked him in the draft last year i think there's something to be said
19:31 look ideally a player's good all two three four years he's starting and there are those guys that
19:39 exist but those are first round picks i i do think there is value in looking for the guy that
19:44 improves rate of improvement is faster than average because that's a guy that knows how to
19:49 learn knows how to get better and you've seen a lot of those players really come on in the nfl and i
19:54 would categorize vaderian low as one of those players a four-year starter at illinois that i
19:58 thought really progressed his game from year to year so if you need somebody who knows how to fit
20:03 into the system quick and get good quick vaderian low did it in college so we'll see but i i still
20:08 think it's kind of a crap shoot i still think that they're just crossing their fingers and hoping that
20:12 you know they'll keep throwing groups of five out there until one of them kind of looks good and
20:16 then they'll ride that as long as they can do you think vaderian low is left tackle because i know
20:22 he's played some right tackle but do you think his best position is on the left or is he a true swing
20:25 i think in their system he's a true swing because as dumb as this sounds taylor you know this
20:33 a big part of their right tackle mold is be big and strong yeah and he is that so i think he has
20:40 the ability to play over there for them i i don't like what do they want to do with trent so this
20:45 one's interesting calvin anderson and trent brown have not been on the field together period you
20:50 like you know trent brown didn't practice at all in the spring calvin brad calvin anderson
20:55 hasn't practiced at all in the summer calvin anderson is a true left tackle so is he moving
21:01 a right tackle out of position is trent moving a right tackle where he played in 2021 i feel like
21:06 you can do some of that same math with vaderian low he's probably more of a true left tackle than
21:12 right tackle but if we're doing the best five that dante skarnak used to always talk about
21:16 i think vaderian low gives you enough at right tackle where if trent brown's on the left side
21:21 or calvin anderson's on the left side i yeah i think he's probably a right tackle in that he
21:27 can be a right tackle in that context what do you think definitely positional versatility you can
21:31 play on both sides but i think the circumstance of this roster dictate him playing on the right side
21:36 what do you think is the best tackle duo now this is also considering calvin anderson hasn't played
21:41 so he's gonna have a curve and then obviously darian low is gonna have his own learning curve
21:45 because he's new to the system also tyrone wheatley i don't know what you think of him
21:48 but who do you i'm not super high on him uh okay it's it's trent brown and michael winnow and i
21:52 frankly i don't think it's close that doesn't count because they would rather die apparently
21:58 than put mike and winnie no he played one snap and right tackle today during practice did he okay i
22:02 missed that so hopes up but oh my god if i can't do michael and winnow it's assuming so it's weird
22:13 because the guy's coming off an illness we don't know what the illness was but he's football cleared
22:17 but where's he at physically he's gonna need a build-up here he's gonna be ready for week one
22:21 assuming calvin anderson is ready assuming he's in the shape he was in in the spring
22:26 i do think it's calvin anderson on the left side trent brown on the right side
22:31 i don't feel great about that uh behind that i would say trent brown on the left side vaderian
22:38 low on the right side the gap's not massive you could sell me on that i'm not like locked into it
22:43 but it's trent brown and michael winnows what it is yeah i agree i agree the thing about vaderian
22:48 low that scares me man is the inside counters that he allows that scares the hell out of me
22:53 because you can't really get around him and i agree i like him as a run blocker but it just
22:57 seems like he does not have the foot speed i think he's a good athlete but i don't think he
23:01 has the foot speed to redirect and stop those and with a guy like mac like that's it i think that's
23:06 a big deal breaker that's why i think you put him on the right side next to michael and winnow who's
23:11 probably your best offensive lineman who can kind of help shade his inside this is where it gets
23:16 tricky and this goes back to some of that 2022 draft stuff i was talking about taylor i saw you
23:22 said this on twitter i know a lot of people say this you can cover up one spot on the offensive
23:27 line if you have four good offensive linemen you can get by last year trent brown not trent brown
23:33 sorry cole strange was the guy that covered up he was good at times but you saw when when david
23:39 andrews wasn't out there and they had to cover up james ferentz at center instead cole strange got
23:45 benched like he couldn't finish games when david andrews wasn't out there the question becomes
23:52 is can cole strange become a guy you don't need to cover up because if he can hold his own you can
23:59 keep michael and winnow at right tackle and experiment at right guard you can do that because
24:03 you can cover up vaderian low by having michael and winnow help now if cole strange needs to be
24:08 helped you have to put michael and winnow at right tackle because i think it's i think riley reef can
24:15 hold his own at right guard i actually think antonio mafi might be able to hold his own at
24:18 right guard especially if it's a couple weeks in the season he sees a little more a little more
24:22 ball a little more padded practices i don't know about vaderian low at right tackle i i know about
24:28 city so at right tackle he's gonna need to be covered up uh riley reeves probably need to be
24:33 couldn't need to be covered up out there he doesn't have the foot speed anymore so this whole
24:37 thing to me hinges on cole strange and can he be better than he was last year i will say you saw i
24:46 talked to him in the locker room you would think with somebody who's lighter like cole strange his
24:50 problem would be that he gets pushed back that's not actually true he's pretty good at like
24:55 re-anchoring and using his leverage to stop himself from just getting pushed back his issue
24:59 was really independent hand usage and what people victimized him with was two hand swipes
25:05 so he would often just try to get in the guy's bodies with both hands and they would just push
25:10 them aside he'd be off balance and they'd get right by him i noticed it was like every second
25:14 he gave up it was the same thing so i asked him today i noticed that that was kind of an issue
25:18 with you last year is that something you worked on this offseason and he told us like you said
25:22 he gained weight and he said the biggest reason for that was actually that he wasn't confident
25:27 in his size and his strength so he was being overzealous and trying to initiate contact
25:33 and you saw cam hayward just took him to the woodshed a few times because guys were smart
25:37 and they knew that especially if they were bigger and had more power so he would over
25:41 extend get off balance and then they'd get right by him so hopefully now he's got another year in
25:47 the system obviously not playing in the summer that's gonna hurt but if he's got that confidence
25:51 in himself and says okay i don't have to necessarily like engage all the time i can kind
25:56 of be better with my hands and be more confident in my set and really have my weight back and be
26:01 able to be stern and handle things better that's a positive sign so you know one thing to look out
26:05 for there yeah so i just i i wondered like yeah he was asked today about putting on weight and i
26:10 think he said he's up to 308 pounds that's patriots tackles usually play at at least 315 320 so
26:17 i i don't know how much like he might have put on weight i don't and that tells me he was playing
26:22 under 300 last year which for a tackle in the modern nfl is uh rare and to be fair i mean even
26:28 still in this modern era where everyone's trying to run outside zone it's not like no one there's
26:31 not a lot of light guards there's plenty of light guards in the league it just at that point becomes
26:36 a technician game like obviously there's a certain level where like if you are too light yes you are
26:40 going to struggle but if you are if you're not like a mike and wendy where you're 330 and guys
26:44 just can't get through you're like an antonio antonio mafi then that's where your hand work
26:49 your leverage your body weight distribution that's where those things are more important so
26:53 hopefully those are things that he feels more confident and can get under control i feel like
26:56 we pretty much touched on interior offensive line um so david andrews mike and one who cole strange
27:01 miley reid but you know plays both antonio mafi jake andrews they released james ferrence they
27:07 waved over there yeah he'll be back he's the terminator and they waved bill murray cody rusey
27:13 and chasen hines now i think bill murray and cody rusey they've been living on the practice squad
27:18 they'll be back there they'll be back chasing behind you back too i but i question because
27:23 he changed his picture on twitter to him no longer in a patch uniform and he said like on to bigger
27:28 and better things or something like that so i don't know if he's as much of a lot to come back
27:32 on the practice squad as we think so that said from my perspective what do you think are his
27:37 chances to come back he should be back i thought he was good i thought he had a good summer if
27:41 they didn't we sort of talked about this one of that for sure we talked about this before they
27:46 have that they handcuffed themselves having to keep those three linemen they drafted even though
27:50 two of them shouldn't play this year and if those guys are seventh round picks whatever you burn the
27:55 rookie contract you put them on the practice squad it's harder when they're fourth and fifth round
27:58 picks had i like had jake andrews and city so not needed to be on the roster i think chasen
28:03 hines is still here of that interior group ferrence rusey right hines was the best player
28:10 so i think there's a chance he has claimed because he put some good tape out there they
28:14 should be they should be trying to get it back if they can get it back i agree all right we've
28:19 covered the offense and now it's time to pay the bills i'm gonna throw it to our buddies at
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29:03 official partner of the nfl a sick beat there all right forward offense moving to defense
29:15 interior defensive line we've got devon godshaw lauren sky christian barmore daniel equality
29:22 and one of my personal favorites sam roberts who i have been ringing that bell for a while i was
29:27 very happy to see that they released carl davis jr it was a surprise externally but when you look
29:32 at his social media he basically said don't feel bad for me don't say oh you know that wasn't fair
29:37 he seemed to feel that he did not do enough to earn a roster spot which you rarely hear players
29:42 say that it was really interesting and they waved jeremiah farms who i think we all expect to be
29:46 back on the practice squad and justice to vi who i was curious that they released him so early
29:52 or waved him rather because they don't have a lot of depth at true nose tackle it's really just
29:58 godshaw right now so what do you think is going to happen there and what were your thoughts on
30:02 sam roberts because i've been living in an echo chamber so first off you you called sam roberts
30:06 i forget if i was on the show with you or we were just talking a couple weeks ago and you're like
30:09 what about sam roberts on the roster really and and then i maybe it's because you were in green
30:13 bay and i wasn't you saw him there but then he had a good week leading up to the titans game played
30:17 well in the titans game and it just shows you can make a late push for a roster and it goes to
30:20 something i talk about all the time not every training can't practice is the same certain
30:26 practices hold way more weight than others those joint practices hold a ton of weight he was good
30:30 there he was good in games excellent and that's that's how he works his way on the roster so
30:36 shout out to him for that and shout out to you for seeing it like you said you were first one
30:39 on that train as for nose tag i do think they should add another nose tackle i think they
30:43 should add depth behind devon godshaw maybe carl davis comes back on the practice squad
30:47 the other guy that's interesting danny shelton got cut by the chiefs today old friend danny
30:54 shelton and first of all people are gonna be like he's ancient what are you talking about he's only
30:57 30 i was surprised by that i looked it up before i tweeted it he's only 30 that's not old it's not
31:03 young but it's not old uh you're basically asking to go out there and get in the way i don't know
31:07 that you need to give him a 53 man roster spot you probably put him on the practice squad if you need
31:11 right you're playing a strong inside running team you elevate him wouldn't be a bad call to make
31:18 in my mind that's a guy i could see having a role on this team i'm sure there's other nose tackles
31:22 that got cut today i saw maurice hurst got cut i know they like him but he's more that
31:28 athletic interior what yeah he's more of a penetrator right yeah athletic he's more like
31:33 that christian barmore daniel quality type now he's still a guy on my radar because they might
31:39 just bring him to the practice squad because they like him and get him in the building and then hey
31:41 if you need some you know barmore gets hurt equality gets hurt you have a guy but yeah
31:46 danny shelton is a guy i would like to see them call i and i don't know where he's at health-wise
31:51 he only played one game last year maybe he's like physically cooked but just on the surface that
31:56 kind of player i do think it would make some people bring up mike purcell in the chat i saw
32:00 he got cut too he's sort of similar uh no he's not allowed in foxborough after what he did to david
32:06 andrews oh i forgot that was him you're right yeah no no on mike purcell good call uh no on mike
32:11 purcell no on uh kenny robinson if you remember him yeah the panther safety that was starting
32:16 all the fights last year yeah i meant to see if he got cut today um i am uh yeah i'd like to see
32:23 them add another nose tackle just danny shelton being out there i think would make a lot of sense
32:26 ken uh kenny robinson waved by the steelers so he is available but uh no
32:34 i really like danny shelton i was heartbroken when he ended up getting cut so i'm all for that one
32:42 and also lauren sky's 33 yeah so you know 30 is not that old for an interior i don't know again
32:49 i don't know if shelton's still the same player he was when he was here the first time but if he's
32:52 close yeah there's a role for him all right edge defender we've got matt judon dietrich wise
33:00 josh uche and franny jennings keon white pretty straightforward no one really they were not on
33:06 the bubble in any way and pretty jennings may have teetered to the bubble but i think you know
33:10 he was maybe earlier in camp he solidified himself uh yeah in the middle there agreed
33:15 physically unable to perform trey flowers he is still on the list because he was out of practice
33:20 today and they waved ronnie perkins and carson wells ronnie perkins i thought i didn't think he
33:26 had a shot at the 53 i thought maybe he did because he was at practice today and he was one
33:30 of the last guys that we heard about not making a roster but i do think he's gonna be back on the
33:34 practice squad what do you think about that i think he'll be back i think anybody who was in
33:38 practice today there's a good chance that that they're on the practice squad so i i think he'll
33:42 be back on the practice club he yeah i just talked about the sam roberts right those those green bay
33:47 practices the depadded practices leading up to the titans game sam ron uh ronnie perkins wasn't
33:53 there he played in the game and he played well in the game but that to me that was my last roster
33:58 spot when i was doing my last projection was sam roberts versus ronnie perkins and it came down to
34:04 two good weeks versus two good hours basically and so i think ronnie perkins definitely showed
34:09 enough to stick around on the practice squad and continue developing but to me sam roberts had the
34:13 edge on him because there was just more there for the coaches to look at agreed all right linebacker
34:20 we've got juwan bentley jelani tavi mac wilson senior who i did not think was going to make the
34:25 roster um marty mabu that's just he's a safety i don't know why they have him at linebacker but
34:32 you know whatever chris board who as you said is like a brandon bolden type where he's a special
34:36 teamer but he could play enough linebacker that it's fair to put him there they waived calvin
34:41 munson i'm sorry they uh released calvin munson they waived joe giles harris who is actually at
34:48 practice today i thought that was surprising and they already waived diego for go calvin munson i
34:54 believe karen i believe it was karen reported that he was mark daniels mark daniels i apologize
35:00 my bad mark uh yeah that he's expected to be back any real thoughts there is that another actually
35:04 yeah what did you think of the mac wilson because i thought we were kind of on the same page if he
35:07 was pretty like squarely on the bubble marty mabu insurance they want another athletic linebacker he
35:14 plays teams as well and they've kind of let some of those special teams guys go so not not super
35:18 surprised especially once you saw some of those you know you saw them go thin at running back
35:23 it was like all right well they're probably opening up spots for something on defense
35:27 because the rest of the offense was kind of cut and dry you sort of knew they were keeping on the
35:30 offensive line with receivers it it was either five or six but that spot was kind of what it was
35:36 uh even cutting bailey zappy too it was clear they were opening up more spots on defense
35:40 yep all right cornerback also yeah mac also special things whatever i'm not gonna get into
35:48 that cornerback now this is one that was surprising because this is one where every time i did a
35:52 roster projection i was like i feel like i don't know what they're gonna do with sean way to mere
35:57 speed after i say bolded unfortunate injury i thought it was pretty obvious that he was probably
36:00 gonna land on injured reserve you saw even before he was injured he just he needs he needs more
36:05 cooking he needs more experience he needs to learn get used to the nfl game so i think that was kind
36:10 of a best scenario for him there was a there was a question i wondered if they would roster him
36:14 then i arm him in order to make him eligible in case you know it got to an emergency point where
36:20 they needed another corner late in the year they'd have him available i think that was a that was a
36:24 fair question but yeah they just because you'd still get that roster spot but they i don't know
36:28 i guess they uh they didn't want to try getting ramond or stevenson through waivers after bailey's
36:33 happy so and and i also thought the thing is i i was on the same page i'm like are they gonna
36:38 really get rid of isaac bouldin for the whole year if sean wade hadn't taken a step forward
36:44 this preseason i would have thought you can't get rid of isaac bouldin because he's just your next
36:48 guy who's big athletic yeah it's gonna be a learning curve but like you don't really have
36:52 any other options i actually spoke to sean way today because i thought when he popped against
36:56 the texans against john mechie i was like he usually gets burned in the slot or in general
37:02 so i was kind of surprised by that and he really i thought he had to touch down against jayden reed
37:06 against the packers but really i thought that was a lot of other factors and i thought his coverage
37:10 was pretty okay um it was like jordan love had forever to hold the ball asian folks may have
37:15 been responsible for giving him help inside i'm not sure what exactly the call was there so i'm
37:19 not going to judge too harshly but i thought sean way did better i asked him about that today like
37:23 what how he progressed he said confidence was a big part of that which obviously a cornerback
37:28 confidence is everything because you can have all the athleticism in the world if you don't trust
37:31 what you're seeing you don't trust your instincts you're kind of screwed jack jones for better or
37:35 worse trust the hell out of his instincts and it leads to him being in position to make a lot of
37:38 plays amir speed again brandon bouldin type where he's really more of a special teamer especially
37:44 right now maybe for the duration of his career but we saw him in man coverage kind of at safety
37:50 at times against tight ends we saw him outside a cornerback i thought he was really good at
37:54 run support had a couple uh nice plays in the preseason and they waved quandary mosley and
37:58 rodney reynolds jr i don't think that was really surprised anybody um any other kind of big takeaways
38:03 there i think with sean way it's interesting you bring up that confidence thing here's a guy that
38:07 was a highly recruited player coming out of high school four or five star crew coming out excuse
38:12 me out of high school played slot corner at ohio state played very well for two years and then he
38:17 was a projected first round pick going into his third year at ohio state and they moved him to
38:21 the boundary and he just couldn't do it it just he's not a boundary corner can't can't figure it
38:25 out and i think that shot his confidence i i think he essentially had to relearn how to play a little
38:31 bit and that's why he's been a project player the last couple years if they're committed to playing
38:36 him in the slot maybe he's refound that confidence he had at ohio state the other thing in that is
38:41 if they plan on playing him in the slot and they kept him and they kept miles bryant
38:45 that tells me that jonathan jones and marcus jones are still going to be playing on the boundary this
38:48 year so you can take that for what it's worth people know how i feel about that especially
38:52 with marcus jones i don't love it it's not that he can't do it i just think at a certain point
38:56 height is height but i do think that you're going to see those those smaller primary boundary corners
39:01 playing on the outside again this year i will say sean wayne got plenty of reps on the outside as
39:06 well both in practice and the preseason um like once you saw isaiah bolden out wade started playing
39:12 i he again he was mixed in before that but he started playing more and he also showed that he
39:16 could play some safety i asked him about that he was like yeah the biggest thing is especially the
39:20 biggest thing with i think free safety is in the patriot system like you don't need to be a play
39:23 maker that's a bonus the entire point is you will not give up posts can't give up anything deep in
39:29 the middle and you have to be that last line of defense where you're a reliable tackler and he
39:32 said yeah at that point like i just kind of get back to my fundamentals where you gotta force
39:36 another boundary you play the inside hip yada yada football stuff but i thought that was pretty
39:40 interesting as well safety another one that's bad straightforward but there was one kind of
39:45 surprising guy that got waved so kyle dugger adrian phillips to bill peppers jalen mills we
39:50 knew they were gonna make the team joshua bledsoe was somebody who i don't know about you but i went
39:55 back and forth on because i didn't think he deserved a roster spot i told you about this
39:59 i was like i don't think he deserves a roster spot but i know that you had him on and brad hawkins i
40:03 did think he made a couple plays in the preseason but not enough that he deserved to make the 53 i
40:07 think he's probably a guy who can make the practice squad what were your thoughts on joshua bledsoe
40:11 and did you ever come around to like maybe he's more of a practice squad guy at this point so i
40:15 was kind of with you i again when i do my roster rejection it's not what i would do it's what i
40:20 think they're gonna do i'm trying to read them and how much he was playing who he was playing
40:25 with in the preseason that told me he was a part of it now maybe he's a guy they know they're gonna
40:29 elevate off the practice squad he still will be they were treating him like a guy they were going
40:34 to keep the guy the role he was practicing in the usage he was getting generally reflects a guy that
40:40 makes the initial 53 so that's where i was coming from i'm with you i i don't know that he's one of
40:44 the 53 best players on the roster i don't think he is but i was a little surprised to see them
40:48 telegraph that and then end up waving him that's fair especially because he's at the end of his
40:53 deal it would be one thing if he was like a second year player and you're cutting that contract as
40:57 someone who i agree the way they were using him like he was in the rotation with jalen mills miles
41:01 bryant and joshua and he is joshua butzo he was in that three safety rotation in the first game so
41:06 i'm like okay they clearly think highly of him because these are their top backups and he was
41:09 playing a lot of different roles like a marty mapu to be very honest where he's playing linebacker
41:13 he's playing strong safety he's playing free safety um but again now he has time to cook
41:18 they have plenty of options he's not somebody that's really going to need to play this year
41:21 if all goes well kicker they traded nick folk to the titans now this seems pretty likely we thought
41:27 that there's i know you also had an idea that they might kick both which was fair because chad ryland
41:32 we saw in windy conditions and we saw i saw it in green bay as well in those joint practices
41:37 he missed two or three kicks in like a day because he has this tendency to kick very high he's got the
41:42 powerful leg his kicks go so high that you can't always tell if they're in or not because they go
41:48 over the goal posts but because of that the wind will take them sometimes and if it's a really
41:53 gusty day his kicks will just miss and it doesn't look good so it was very fair to think that nick
41:59 folk might have actually made the roster so they could have some insurance there but there was also
42:03 the possibility that they moved him his family's in texas so it made sense that he would probably
42:08 go somewhere i think they were talking about a few places it seemed like the rams the 49ers
42:12 and the titans were the most likely destinations he wound up in tennessee what were your thoughts
42:16 on that so what they should have done all along he had too much value to cut him i didn't love
42:21 the idea of keeping two i think they thought about it i thought maybe they could have gotten a little
42:26 bit more i wonder if it was a thing where they kind of honored where he wanted to go
42:29 but yeah this is how this always should have ended they got this one right
42:34 yep i agree punter bryce barringer won the job corliss weightman was waived do you think he'll
42:40 be back on the practice squad yeah i think they want to keep a lefty lefty punter around just
42:45 kind of prepare for that in games i'll just you know you have a rookie there's some natural
42:49 hesitance that comes with that having a plan b that's already in the building that you've
42:53 experienced with now weightman's a guy could see maybe not getting clean i don't think he's
42:58 gonna get claimed off waivers but you get a couple weeks in the season somebody's punter
43:02 gets hurt it really sucks like he's probably gonna be one of the top free agent punters
43:05 available he's on the practice squad so maybe he gets a chance to go to the 53 somewhere else
43:10 but i think at least to start the season he'll be on the practice squad i'll give you another
43:13 interesting number on this too just please if i can find it here so this is why i think it's
43:19 important i i honestly also wouldn't be surprised if patriots signed a rookie uh or sorry signed a
43:25 kicker any kicker not a rookie kicker actually veteran kicker to the practice squad because uh
43:31 the last time a team had a rookie kicker and punter both week one was the miami dolphins in 2015
43:40 the last time a rookie kicker and punter both played at least 10 games for the same team in
43:44 the same year was 2018 with the raiders isn't something that happens a lot might not be bad
43:48 to have insurance plans they shouldn't need them you drafted these guys redrafted them the
43:52 expectation should be they play 17 games but also maybe have insurance especially given the way
43:57 their drafts have gotten recently that tells us anything they should have a plan b ready
44:01 how the hell did you find that uh profile bar reference i searched uh i didn't look it up
44:07 game finder and i put in the criteria yeah i just had it i had to do it individually so i had to do
44:14 like kickers so i did like season finder right um only kickers and punters rookie year played at
44:23 least 10 games and then i had to see you know i looked at each year and i said all right there
44:26 are two guys for the same team this year two guys the same team and then i did the same thing in the
44:31 single game finder with uh week one games you're pros pro buddy i appreciate you i i i poke around
44:37 on profile bar reference michael hurley will tell you that yeah you you are so like data when i am
44:42 the film uh although you're funny i'm not i god i i do too i just i'm absolutely terrified um
44:51 long snapper any takeaways there no uh tucker addington i didn't even realize he'd gotten
44:59 signed after getting cut by the patriots he got cut i think it was the seahawks that he got cut
45:03 by somebody today so good for him he's hanging around absolutely let's see i i bet joe card
45:09 jaguars okay i knew it was something with like teal blue green uh i bet uh um first of all i
45:17 appreciate this is this is classic barth what you're doing right here covering every position
45:21 even if it doesn't really need to be covered i love that i bet joe cardona's little relieved
45:26 because different kickers want the ball held differently so that means snap differently
45:31 different punters want the ball snapped differently he gets to just focus on work well he gets to
45:35 focus on work with like one battery it's it's he's snapping to ryland or he's snapping to
45:40 bearinger period and then ryland will kick but bearinger's the holder so a little less on his
45:44 plate i'm sure he's he's going to enjoy that the next couple days absolutely we love joe cardona
45:50 coverage specialists last position on the roster we have matthew slater we have brennan schooler
45:57 they were locks wave rally web i guess you could call him a receiver because he plays receiver a
46:03 lot in the preseason and like with the threes in practice but i mean i i could not bring myself to
46:08 call him a receiver no offense but like realistically that's not what he is practice squad i think so i
46:14 think he'll be back uh calvin munson insurance amir speed insurance keep a couple specialists
46:20 around yeah because they already got they lost to marcus mitchell which broke my heart and ah
46:26 what about jordan healing uh yeah did he get signed anywhere i'm looking up right now oh
46:34 don't see that he signed anywhere i wonder what the situation is with him then like was he hurt
46:41 or what's going on there maybe because i just realized they wanted less specialists i i don't
46:45 know that one was still weird to me yeah especially considering how much time you spent with slater
46:49 and schooler but uh bud that's the end of the roster we got through everybody go not going to
46:55 take it now i i hate the initial roster i hate because how many teams actually play a game with
47:03 their initial 53 man roster very few if any no no i i i i love thursday thursday night we'll have
47:11 the practice squad's built we'll have waiver claims in we'll know who's on ir thursday night
47:16 that's nothing against what we just did i understand why this is notable i understand
47:19 why this is what you talk about but like the whole thing because we have to answer a million people
47:24 i'm getting a million tweets all day quarterback what are they gonna do back concerned law offense
47:29 what no they're gonna have a backup quarterback they don't play for two weeks they're gonna have
47:31 a backup quarterback it might be somebody they elevate from the practice squad but they will
47:34 have a second quarterback dress on uh game day the only one on like wide receiver six wide receivers
47:40 what's the point you're gonna have five taekwondo one hour the only spot honestly i wonder about
47:46 is running back yeah i there's too many other guys to sign so the two guys who are going on ir
47:54 taekwon riley reef i would think that's not a report that's just reading the tea leaves yeah
47:58 all right we know according to mark daniels calvin munson's getting one of those spots
48:03 time montgomery get the other does jj taylor get the other because there's some other guys who
48:08 think like carl davis could be back maybe ronnie perkins comes back maybe they just sign the
48:12 quarterback outright maybe they signed bailey's happy outright or colt mccoy outright uh and then
48:19 you know you go to practice squad elevations it sounds like you can't get jj taylor on the practice
48:23 squad so is it time montgomery being elevated is it is somebody we don't even know i'll tell you
48:28 this today another name to watch and i try to limit myself because it's very easy guys get cut around
48:32 the league call that guy call that guy call that guy call that guy i already brought up danny
48:35 shelton i already brought up zach koons i'll give you one more i would love for the patriots to call
48:40 jack coletto he got cut by the niners today now they he might get claimed before they get him
48:46 because he had a really good preseason if you're not familiar with jack coletto he was on their
48:51 team at the shrine bowl out of oregon state he plays fullback tight end off ball linebacker
48:58 he's a two-way player and he's kind of that like in san francisco they were looking at him they
49:02 were like people thought use check was going to be the surprise roster cut that's how good coletto
49:07 this summer i don't know everybody thought that but i saw some people speculate if anybody's
49:12 thinking it i'm intrigued so he's a good blocker right he can give you some tight end depth and
49:18 also you need to play linebacker you do that obviously play special teams of course he plays
49:22 special teams they're familiar with him with the shrine ball i really thought they're gonna draft
49:26 him that is a guy i would like to see them call because he can also he's played a little bit of
49:31 traditional running back too now he's not a traditional pass catching back but he can handle
49:38 that role he's been essentially in that role as a fullback so that's another guy i i'd like to see
49:45 him call i think maybe he gets claimed he'll definitely get to the backers practice squad if
49:48 not uh the uh niners practice squad if not because i think the the plan even if it's from the practice
49:53 squad is for him to i think uh use checks in the last year his deal is for him to follow use check
49:59 but that's an interesting guy i'd call all right buddy well i'm not going to take up any more your
50:04 time your insights are highly valued always this was fun actually are there any other receiving
50:10 bags you can think of just because i'm thinking if ty montgomery even if he's back on the roster
50:14 gets hurt they lose jj taylor i think they want some kind of insurance and i don't think they
50:18 think it's kevin harris is there anybody else you could see who was waived today that you think they
50:22 might have interest not today and uh let me make sure he didn't sign but no he didn't sign kenya
50:31 drake got cut like last week that's the guy i would call um the only other guy but i'm pretty
50:36 sure yeah he made the team evan hold made the colts that with jonathan taylor holding after
50:40 that past block he had to like twitter would have gone feral if they cut that guy uh kenya drake to
50:47 me makes a lot of sense for them i i don't know why they didn't call him before i don't if they
50:50 were gonna not sign damien harris i thought kenyan drake made a lot of sense when they signed james
50:54 robinson who by the way got cut today so that's that's the guy i'd look at all right buddy well
51:01 i appreciate you everybody here knows you are his handles right there i'm not gonna do the whole
51:05 regular spiel but just let everybody know what work you got plug away yeah 985 sports hub.com
51:11 i'll have reactions to the initial roster and a little something on the 2022 draft coming out
51:16 either tonight or tomorrow fantastic you all know that alex does excellent work make sure you check
51:22 that out i myself will also have some reactions trying to come out tonight um for the initial
51:27 53 again understanding that this is not the roster that they're going to head into the season with
51:31 uh but thank you all for tuning in take care of yourselves take care of each other and we will
51:36 see you next time